For thoses that wants to try out, I've implemented a few days ago bookmarks:1 in Movim master
edhelas
You can directly try it out on the official pods
emus
edhelas: 👍
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It also supports :0
Daniel
So now we just need a switch day?
edhelas
As you want :)
edhelas
I'm planning to release the 0.18 soon with this feature in
Daniel
edhelas: are you migrating bookmarks?
Daniel
Or will this make bookmarks incompatible with literally everything else out there?
edhelas
Nah
edhelas
Well
edhelas
I have a tool to migrate from the old system and push it to :1
edhelas
And i'm pulling from :0 and :1 and pushing to :1 on edit
Daniel
A tool? Does that run automatically?
Daniel
When and how often?
edhelas
No
Holger
This should really be done by servers I guess.
edhelas
Basically after I pull from :0 and :1, if the list is empty I invite the user to sync its old bookmarks
edhelas
There's a button for that
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Holger
Users switching browsers are used to importing bookmarks 🤪
Daniel
Luckily I haven't switched browsers since firebird 0.7
Link Mauve
edhelas, so that means a user using any client other than Movim will effectively lose their bookmarks in it?
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Link Mauve no, because I don't clear the old storage:bookmarks ones
edhelas
Like Firefox is not clearing Chrome bookmarks when they are imported :p
Link Mauve
edhelas, so you’re only desynchronising?
Link Mauve
My current advice would be to keep using Private XML bookmarks until the server advertises bookmarks2 conversion.
Daniel
Fwiw Conversations also has code for bookmarks 2.0 - but it's currently not enabled because I don't want my users to loose sync
edhelas
okay
Daniel
Plus I think servers don't support the unlimited items feature yet
Daniel
Which is sort of required if you don't want to use magic numbers
edhelas
that was the goal of "multi-items" in 0060
edhelas
> The service supports the storage of multiple items per node. It requires the pubsub#max_items configuration item to be exposed to the user and allow sensible values (higher than one) to be set in Configure a Node.
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I'm talking about the publish options max
Daniel
Which turns out server devs don't like
Daniel
Meaning we probably have to redo that
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I doubt we'll support *unlimited* items
Daniel
it's not specified as unlimited. but as server defined max
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flow
Daniel> Meaning we probably have to redo that
What a pitty, I do like it. What would be the alternative? An additional (boolean?) field which tells the server to allow multiple items on that node?
Link Mauve
flow, the issue isn’t whether multiple items are allowed, it is that multiple implementations have a different value for their maximum amount of items, and short of hardcoding 255 or so (which might be too low for some applications) in all clients it was impossible to know the server’s maximum pubsub#max_items.
Link Mauve
It’s still impossible, but you can now request it since 0060 1.17.0.
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flow
Link Mauve, I know
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flow
If I am not mistaken we previously only had a field which set the max items for a node, and if you set it to a value >1, then you allowed the node to carry multiple items
flow
and this field was extended to allow besides the integers, also a string value, "unlimited" (or so), to denote that you want the pubsub service to retrain multiple items for that node
flow
but ppl where not happy, because we now have a value that can either be an integer or a string
flow
so my suggestion was to add another field 'multiple-items', which if set to 'true', signals the server that it should keep multiple items for that node, akin to the "unlimited" value for max-items
flow
and I was wondering if that's a good idea that would make people happy
Link Mauve
flow, it’s not 'unlimited', it’s 'max', and its meaning isn’t that the node can retain multiple items, it’s that the node will accept as many items as the server is configured to accept.
Link Mauve
(Limit which isn’t even queryable.)
flow
I know, hence I wrote "unlimited (or so)"
Daniel
Some people would probably prefer -1 instead of max
flow
Daniel, then the feature wouldn't be discoverable, or you would need to jump through an extra hoop to make it so, no?
Daniel
Max currently has a disco feature. So you'd need a new disco feature
Daniel
Or rename that feature essentially
flow
if it was a new field, we could re-use the existing mechanisms for pubsub feature discovery, I believe. not a big deal, but still
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ikeameatballs
hi
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Guus
🇸🇪
DarkiJah
Guus: how did you do that?
DarkiJah
> Guus wrote:
> 🇸🇪
Hmm just a picture? No code?
Guus
That's just an emoji.
DarkiJah
Well not sure how that works
DarkiJah
🚩🇯🇵🇩🇪🇨🇳🇺🇸🇫🇷🇪🇸🇮🇹🇷🇺🇬🇧
Guus
Similar to things like these: 😁👍💕🍿🏆🥳
DarkiJah
Ahh well...
DarkiJah
Roger
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DarkiJah
Don't seem to have scandinavian flags myself
DarkiJah
Guus:
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Guus
🏴☠️
Guus
If you can see them, you can probably copy paste them.
Holger
Just ask Guus whenever you need a flag.
DarkiJah
You have a Danish flag or a all white flag would be cool✎
DarkiJah
You have a Danish flag or an all white flag would be cool ✏
Guus
I walked right into that one
!XSF_Martin
🇸🇪🇸🇯🇩🇰🇫🇮
!XSF_Martin
How much more Scandinavia do you need?
DarkiJah
🇩🇰
DarkiJah
!XSF_Martin: well does not seem to be part of my system.
!XSF_Martin
Old android maybe.
DarkiJah
8
!XSF_Martin
9 here
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DarkiJah
Ahh... Well it sounds like it is a vad idea to update on my old mobile... Although the update is yet be seen...✎
DarkiJah
Ahh... Well it sounds like it is a bad idea to update on my old mobile... Although the update is yet be seen... ✏
!XSF_Martin
Android manor updates suck, but we should stop the offtopic here.
DarkiJah
!XSF_Martin: roger
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DarkiJah
One of the owners in this room seems to be a Roman Papist - just so you know. Catholics are Wolves in Sheep clothing who follows that AntiChrist 666. A pagan Satanic cult, the very masterpiece of Satan. They hate the truth and look to the Devil for guidence. They worship a dry cookie and call it God...
Holger
Let's get back to flags.
DarkiJah
Holger: Just noticed. Anyway back to research. :)
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vanitasvitae
https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/psychosis.htm
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ikeameatballs
🇫🇮️
DarkiJah
moparisthebest: The truth does that to people - but the truth stays the truth.
DarkiJah
Ups that was not private.
ikeameatballs
im atheist so im neutral on this discussion
Kev
This isn't remotely topical, so stop please.
DarkiJah
ikeameatballs: okay... But most people tend to hang on to Evolution when they are atheists.
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Kev
As I said, please stop.
DarkiJah
moparisthebest: I don't fall for slick Catholic talk. The Pope the Devils front face in this worldand any Christian being part of that system should come out of it imediatly.
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Kev
Or ignore me.
vanitasvitae
Kev, thx
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Daniel
Trying to set up a new record of channels to get banned from? ✎
Daniel
Trying to set a new record of channels to get banned from? ✏
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moparisthebest
ah sorry I see he didn't understand how PMs worked, I was trying to talk some sense into him and he was just responding in here :/
!XSF_Martin
>AntiChrist 666. A pagan Satanic cult
Where can I enroll?
vanitasvitae
moparisthebest, I fear that is wasted time
moparisthebest
yea I suspect so, it was worth a shot though
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Kev
I think *everyone* should drop it.
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vanitasvitae
yeah
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jonas’
oh
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jonas’
UPDATED: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)
jonas’
congrats, MattJ
jonas’
something went wrong though and the revision block points to the wrong date