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Guus
On OpenDomain: https://web.archive.org/web/20070504093558/https://xmpp.org/xsf/press/2005-12-30.shtml
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Holger
Guus: Ah, thanks.
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Guus
The XSF is incorporated the state of Delaware - I assume that the Denver PO box is more of a convenience / physical distance thingy.
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Zash
> domains were transferred to the JSF Meaning they are held by the XSF?
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jonas’
yes
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jonas’
Registrant Organization: XMPP Standards Foundation Registrant State/Province: CO Registrant Country: US
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Zash
Registrant Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY 😕️
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jonas’
huh?
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jonas’
I just ran `whois xmpp.org` and got that
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Zash
Ah, that was from `whois xmpp.com`
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Holger
Guus: Ah. Looks like you get good burgers right next to the Denver address though.
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Guus
Holger I can't vouch for that. I'm not sure to what extend, if true, that is a coincidence. /me eyes stpeter
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Guus
just to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the addressing thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere?✎ -
Guus
just to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the address thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere? ✏
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Holger
Guus: :-) Pure curiousity, sorry for the noise. I've applied for membership so I'm trying to inform myself about the important things such as burgers.
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jonas’
burgers.
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Guus
can't blame you.
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eevvoor
Ah, you`re applying at last, Holger?
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edhelas
just posted that https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258436
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eevvoor
edhelas 🙂
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Ge0rG
if you want to upvote, you should go through https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and not through the direct id link
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edhelas
ah, indeed, sorry
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lovetox
The example message example makes no sense
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lovetox
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0070.html
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lovetox
It implies implementation should implement there own way of saying "Yes" or "No" via body
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lovetox
at the same time the XEP defines a protocol way of confirmation (type=error vs type=normal)
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lovetox
for a moment i thought this might be a, Dont show the body its only a fallback thing
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lovetox
but that makes even less sense, as with such XEP the body is very useful and gives more context about what the auth is
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lovetox
further the XEP states, the confirm element MUST be in the reply, so essentially only clients that understand httpauth can do this
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Zash
In https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0425.html why is <retract/> a child of <moderate/>? (ping jcbrand) Not sure if I asked before, but I've wondered about it before. Seems backwards or redundant, unless there may be other future moderation actions than retraction.
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jcbrand
Zash: because conceivably there could be other moderation commands as well besides retraction
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Zash
I'm thinking because it means you have to support both
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Zash
Might be fine tho
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lovetox
hmm
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lovetox
i just go a message from someone who claims to be from the FBI and requests access logs from gajim.org
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lovetox
anyone experienced something similar?
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Zash
I guess it depends on how different you consider "the user retracted this message" and "a moderator retracted a message"
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marc
lovetox: via email?
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lovetox
no via xmpp
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MattJ
lovetox: yes, it happens
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lovetox
and do you hand over logs?
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MattJ
stpeter may have some tips, he has dealt with it for jabber.org occasionally
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Zash
maybe consider lawyering up
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lovetox
Zash, why would i ?! im not us citizen
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lovetox
asking nicely is the full extend of what he can do, thats why he does it i guess
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lovetox
hail mary
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MattJ
:)
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Daniel
lovetox: depending on how credible you think they are either ignore or tell them politely that they have to go through Austrian authorities
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Daniel
You are probably not allowed (by your countrie's) law to hand them any data
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moparisthebest
is it a @fbi.gov JID or something else? either way probably shouldn't just send data
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Daniel
And the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities
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marc
> And the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities ☝
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Zash
Does seem like the thing where asking a lawyer seems saner than asking the Internet. :P
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Daniel
Usually I would expect them to send a scanned document with a proper stamp and letter head
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MattJ
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a request over XMPP
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moparisthebest
I doubt any country has a law requiring any response at all to an informal instant messaging request
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Daniel
Oh it came over xmpp?
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Daniel
I missed that part.
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Daniel
It's very likely not credible than
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lovetox
actually he regitered on gajim.org
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lovetox
and send me that
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moparisthebest
99.9% chance he's a scammer
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lovetox
but what seems to make it credible, is that he offerend i can call the phone number and verify his identity
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lovetox
phone number is indeed correct
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moparisthebest
how did you verify the phone number
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lovetox
google
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Daniel
Credible or not the proper procedure is for them to go through the Austrian authorities
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Daniel
With a request for legal assistance
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lovetox
Yes Daniel i agree
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Daniel
But I almost always get a nice PDF
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Daniel
Not that this buys me anything
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Daniel
Because it doesn't change the procedure
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lovetox
yeah asking does not hurt and i bet some people send data