On OpenDomain: https://web.archive.org/web/20070504093558/https://xmpp.org/xsf/press/2005-12-30.shtml
Holger
Guus: Ah, thanks.
Guus
The XSF is incorporated the state of Delaware - I assume that the Denver PO box is more of a convenience / physical distance thingy.
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> domains were transferred to the JSF
Meaning they are held by the XSF?
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jonas’
yes
jonas’
Registrant Organization: XMPP Standards Foundation
Registrant State/Province: CO
Registrant Country: US
Zash
Registrant Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
😕️
jonas’
huh?
jonas’
I just ran `whois xmpp.org` and got that
Zash
Ah, that was from `whois xmpp.com`
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Guus: Ah. Looks like you get good burgers right next to the Denver address though.
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Holger I can't vouch for that. I'm not sure to what extend, if true, that is a coincidence. /me eyes stpeter
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just to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the addressing thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere?✎
Guus
just to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the address thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere? ✏
Holger
Guus: :-) Pure curiousity, sorry for the noise. I've applied for membership so I'm trying to inform myself about the important things such as burgers.
jonas’
burgers.
Guus
can't blame you.
eevvoor
Ah, you`re applying at last, Holger?
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edhelas
just posted that https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258436
eevvoor
edhelas 🙂
Ge0rG
if you want to upvote, you should go through https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and not through the direct id link
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ah, indeed, sorry
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lovetox
The example message example makes no sense
lovetox
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0070.html
lovetox
It implies implementation should implement there own way of saying "Yes" or "No" via body
lovetox
at the same time the XEP defines a protocol way of confirmation (type=error vs type=normal)
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for a moment i thought this might be a, Dont show the body its only a fallback thing
lovetox
but that makes even less sense, as with such XEP the body is very useful and gives more context about what the auth is
lovetox
further the XEP states, the confirm element MUST be in the reply, so essentially only clients that understand httpauth can do this
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Zash
In https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0425.html why is <retract/> a child of <moderate/>? (ping jcbrand)
Not sure if I asked before, but I've wondered about it before. Seems backwards or redundant, unless there may be other future moderation actions than retraction.
jcbrand
Zash: because conceivably there could be other moderation commands as well besides retraction
Zash
I'm thinking because it means you have to support both
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Might be fine tho
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lovetox
hmm
lovetox
i just go a message from someone who claims to be from the FBI and requests access logs from gajim.org
lovetox
anyone experienced something similar?
Zash
I guess it depends on how different you consider "the user retracted this message" and "a moderator retracted a message"
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lovetox: via email?
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lovetox
no via xmpp
MattJ
lovetox: yes, it happens
lovetox
and do you hand over logs?
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MattJ
stpeter may have some tips, he has dealt with it for jabber.org occasionally
Zash
maybe consider lawyering up
lovetox
Zash, why would i ?! im not us citizen
lovetox
asking nicely is the full extend of what he can do, thats why he does it i guess
lovetox
hail mary
MattJ
:)
Daniel
lovetox: depending on how credible you think they are either ignore or tell them politely that they have to go through Austrian authorities
Daniel
You are probably not allowed (by your countrie's) law to hand them any data
moparisthebest
is it a @fbi.gov JID or something else? either way probably shouldn't just send data
Daniel
And the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities
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marc
> And the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities
☝
Zash
Does seem like the thing where asking a lawyer seems saner than asking the Internet. :P
Daniel
Usually I would expect them to send a scanned document with a proper stamp and letter head
MattJ
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a request over XMPP
moparisthebest
I doubt any country has a law requiring any response at all to an informal instant messaging request
Daniel
Oh it came over xmpp?
Daniel
I missed that part.
Daniel
It's very likely not credible than
lovetox
actually he regitered on gajim.org
lovetox
and send me that
moparisthebest
99.9% chance he's a scammer
lovetox
but what seems to make it credible, is that he offerend i can call the phone number and verify his identity
lovetox
phone number is indeed correct
moparisthebest
how did you verify the phone number
lovetox
google
Daniel
Credible or not the proper procedure is for them to go through the Austrian authorities
Daniel
With a request for legal assistance
lovetox
Yes Daniel i agree
Daniel
But I almost always get a nice PDF
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Daniel
Not that this buys me anything
Daniel
Because it doesn't change the procedure
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yeah asking does not hurt and i bet some people send data