GuusThe XSF is incorporated the state of Delaware - I assume that the Denver PO box is more of a convenience / physical distance thingy.
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Zash> domains were transferred to the JSF
Meaning they are held by the XSF?
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jonas’yes
jonas’Registrant Organization: XMPP Standards Foundation
Registrant State/Province: CO
Registrant Country: US
ZashRegistrant Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
😕️
jonas’huh?
jonas’I just ran `whois xmpp.org` and got that
ZashAh, that was from `whois xmpp.com`
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HolgerGuus: Ah. Looks like you get good burgers right next to the Denver address though.
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GuusHolger I can't vouch for that. I'm not sure to what extend, if true, that is a coincidence. /me eyes stpeter
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Guusjust to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the addressing thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere?
Guusjust to assert the amount of attention that I need to give the address thing: is this merely to satisfy curiosity, or are we having an issue somehow/somewhere?
HolgerGuus: :-) Pure curiousity, sorry for the noise. I've applied for membership so I'm trying to inform myself about the important things such as burgers.
jonas’burgers.
Guuscan't blame you.
eevvoorAh, you`re applying at last, Holger?
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edhelasjust posted that https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258436
eevvooredhelas 🙂
Ge0rGif you want to upvote, you should go through https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and not through the direct id link
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edhelasah, indeed, sorry
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lovetoxThe example message example makes no sense
lovetoxhttps://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0070.html
lovetoxIt implies implementation should implement there own way of saying "Yes" or "No" via body
lovetoxat the same time the XEP defines a protocol way of confirmation (type=error vs type=normal)
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lovetoxfor a moment i thought this might be a, Dont show the body its only a fallback thing
lovetoxbut that makes even less sense, as with such XEP the body is very useful and gives more context about what the auth is
lovetoxfurther the XEP states, the confirm element MUST be in the reply, so essentially only clients that understand httpauth can do this
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ZashIn https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0425.html why is <retract/> a child of <moderate/>? (ping jcbrand)
Not sure if I asked before, but I've wondered about it before. Seems backwards or redundant, unless there may be other future moderation actions than retraction.
jcbrandZash: because conceivably there could be other moderation commands as well besides retraction
ZashI'm thinking because it means you have to support both
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ZashMight be fine tho
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lovetoxhmm
lovetoxi just go a message from someone who claims to be from the FBI and requests access logs from gajim.org
lovetoxanyone experienced something similar?
ZashI guess it depends on how different you consider "the user retracted this message" and "a moderator retracted a message"
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marclovetox: via email?
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lovetoxno via xmpp
MattJlovetox: yes, it happens
lovetoxand do you hand over logs?
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MattJstpeter may have some tips, he has dealt with it for jabber.org occasionally
Zashmaybe consider lawyering up
lovetoxZash, why would i ?! im not us citizen
lovetoxasking nicely is the full extend of what he can do, thats why he does it i guess
lovetoxhail mary
MattJ:)
Daniellovetox: depending on how credible you think they are either ignore or tell them politely that they have to go through Austrian authorities
DanielYou are probably not allowed (by your countrie's) law to hand them any data
moparisthebestis it a @fbi.gov JID or something else? either way probably shouldn't just send data
DanielAnd the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities
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marc> And the proper procedure is the proxy that through your authorities
☝
ZashDoes seem like the thing where asking a lawyer seems saner than asking the Internet. :P
DanielUsually I would expect them to send a scanned document with a proper stamp and letter head
MattJYeah, I wouldn't expect a request over XMPP
moparisthebestI doubt any country has a law requiring any response at all to an informal instant messaging request
DanielOh it came over xmpp?
DanielI missed that part.
DanielIt's very likely not credible than
lovetoxactually he regitered on gajim.org
lovetoxand send me that
moparisthebest99.9% chance he's a scammer
lovetoxbut what seems to make it credible, is that he offerend i can call the phone number and verify his identity
lovetoxphone number is indeed correct
moparisthebesthow did you verify the phone number
lovetoxgoogle
DanielCredible or not the proper procedure is for them to go through the Austrian authorities
DanielWith a request for legal assistance
lovetoxYes Daniel i agree
DanielBut I almost always get a nice PDF
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DanielNot that this buys me anything
DanielBecause it doesn't change the procedure
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lovetoxyeah asking does not hurt and i bet some people send data