XSF Discussion - 2020-08-29

yup

otherwise you will only see what your server has sent (i.e. "new message") untill you open the app

we do hope to propose it as propper XEP

Wojtek, yeah, it's a nice XEP

hmm, on that note - @jonas’ has shared with you XEP template the other day - would you mind sharing it? (tried to find it without much luck)

Wojtek, it's in xsf/xeps

Wojtek, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/blob/master/xep-template.xml

thanks!

>> Wojtek, yeah, siskin is pretty solid from what I've seen :) > Yeah, seems to work pretty good for my apples. did you do a 😎️ ... apples to apples comparison?

Before I let them try Chatsecure and it didn't really work well.

mdosch, I had several cases in the near past where only siskin worked. No monal, no chatsecure could even login.

Monal was on the other end when some of my messages got lost, so I wasn't brave enough to let my Apple users try it.

haha I know this kind of braveness :D

But lost messages are a general Problem for any iPhone App. But it differs from phone to phone which App works best ...

*any iPhone XMPP App I mean of course

Ok, so far I haven't experienced message loss with siskin.

I have already. But seldom enough to not losing the iPhone person. Round about once in three moths.

eevvoor: did they enable MAM in settings?

eta ah no, if it is not the default.

I mean, "they" don't do anything, they are normal people. They just send pics and sound and sometimes text ... 🙄

by default Siskin should ask about it, but there was an error in the last stable version which will be fixed in the upcoming version

Yeah, Holger and me already tried to convince them to enable push and mam by default but they are concerned about gdpr.

mdosch: Happy to have you supporting with CommTeam topics

By the way, Newsletter's editorial closing at the horizon for August in case one havent dropped their news yet

emus: how much time is left?

31st: Month closing 3rd: Phase for final edits and first reviews ends 6rd: Editorial closing 8th: Release

wurstsalat:

thanks emus ! I’m a little late with Gajim’s development news this month

Is fine

Here is the full plan: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/756

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24304275

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a coordinated troll effort by left/right online activists to deplatform the right/left activists

...given that you can easily game "crowdsourced" app/social media abuse report systems, given a thousand users or so

"It hurt itself in its confusion"

Also https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim

The "subscribe" button on top is a XMPP link, if you're using Movim, it should directly redirect you to the pubsub node then you can subscribe to it

It's based on https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#registrar-querytypes

It's (I think) the very first time there's such link online, it would be good to push similar buttons around to promote Pubsub content :)

what, XMPP for something else than IM? blasphemy! :)

Well I think it's time to show that we can do more than that :p

Having the XMPP blog on a Pubsub node, and allow folks to follow it using their XMPP client could be great

it's actually working pretty well for years

(That was sarcasm. Just saying out loud what many think :))