XSF Discussion - 2020-08-29

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00:01:37 Wojtek yup
00:02:01 Wojtek otherwise you will only see what your server has sent (i.e. "new message") untill you open the app
00:02:55 Wojtek we do hope to propose it as propper XEP
00:06:32 eta Wojtek, yeah, it's a nice XEP
00:07:12 Wojtek hmm, on that note - @jonas’ has shared with you XEP template the other day - would you mind sharing it? (tried to find it without much luck)
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00:12:15 eta Wojtek, it's in xsf/xeps
00:12:32 eta Wojtek, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/blob/master/xep-template.xml
00:13:15 Wojtek thanks!
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03:55:59 moparisthebest >> Wojtek, yeah, siskin is pretty solid from what I've seen :) > Yeah, seems to work pretty good for my apples. did you do a 😎️ ... apples to apples comparison?
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08:41:40 mdosch Before I let them try Chatsecure and it didn't really work well.
08:43:38 eevvoor mdosch, I had several cases in the near past where only siskin worked. No monal, no chatsecure could even login.
08:45:06 mdosch Monal was on the other end when some of my messages got lost, so I wasn't brave enough to let my Apple users try it.
08:45:38 eevvoor haha I know this kind of braveness :D
08:46:38 eevvoor But lost messages are a general Problem for any iPhone App. But it differs from phone to phone which App works best ...
08:46:59 eevvoor *any iPhone XMPP App I mean of course
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08:48:27 mdosch Ok, so far I haven't experienced message loss with siskin.
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08:53:14 eevvoor I have already. But seldom enough to not losing the iPhone person. Round about once in three moths.
08:56:29 eta eevvoor: did they enable MAM in settings?
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09:20:47 eevvoor eta ah no, if it is not the default.
09:21:35 eevvoor I mean, "they" don't do anything, they are normal people. They just send pics and sound and sometimes text ... 🙄
09:21:45 Andrzej by default Siskin should ask about it, but there was an error in the last stable version which will be fixed in the upcoming version
09:21:53 mdosch Yeah, Holger and me already tried to convince them to enable push and mam by default but they are concerned about gdpr.
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09:56:02 emus mdosch: Happy to have you supporting with CommTeam topics
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09:58:28 emus By the way, Newsletter's editorial closing at the horizon for August in case one havent dropped their news yet
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11:47:38 wurstsalat emus: how much time is left?
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11:51:00 emus 31st: Month closing 3rd: Phase for final edits and first reviews ends 6rd: Editorial closing 8th: Release
11:51:03 emus wurstsalat:
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11:51:52 wurstsalat thanks emus ! I’m a little late with Gajim’s development news this month
11:52:05 emus Is fine
11:52:31 emus Here is the full plan: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/756
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19:38:06 edhelas https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24304275
19:39:28 Ge0rG I wouldn't be surprised if this was a coordinated troll effort by left/right online activists to deplatform the right/left activists
19:40:47 Ge0rG ...given that you can easily game "crowdsourced" app/social media abuse report systems, given a thousand users or so
19:40:55 Zash "It hurt itself in its confusion"
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22:00:43 edhelas Also https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim
22:01:21 edhelas The "subscribe" button on top is a XMPP link, if you're using Movim, it should directly redirect you to the pubsub node then you can subscribe to it
22:01:40 edhelas It's based on https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#registrar-querytypes
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22:02:20 edhelas It's (I think) the very first time there's such link online, it would be good to push similar buttons around to promote Pubsub content :)
22:03:15 pep. what, XMPP for something else than IM? blasphemy! :)
22:04:54 edhelas Well I think it's time to show that we can do more than that :p
22:05:23 edhelas Having the XMPP blog on a Pubsub node, and allow folks to follow it using their XMPP client could be great
22:05:33 edhelas it's actually working pretty well for years
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22:06:57 pep. (That was sarcasm. Just saying out loud what many think :))
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