XSF Discussion - 2020-09-19

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06:17:25 MattJ Glad you're ok Neustradamus, we missed you :)
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07:10:02 Seve 😁
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07:46:11 Guus I'm no kinda interested myself
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07:49:49 MattJ xmpp.org and all up to date Prosody servers should have no problems with jabber.org now, as far as I know
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08:02:08 Zash It doesn't as far as I can tell.
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11:31:59 eevvoor F2F XMPP Meetup tommorow in Hamburg, Germany in case somebody does some Corona traveling by coincidence ...
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12:53:27 Guus I'm kinda interested myself
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12:53:47 Guus > xmpp.org and all up to date Prosody servers should have no problems with jabber.org now, as far as I know So migration had been completed?
12:54:23 Zash No, up to date Prosody has a tweaked cipher preference and shouldn't have problems.
12:55:18 Guus Oh, sorry. My mind doesn't see a difference between xmpp and jabber. Kind of an important distinction when referring to domain names though. 😉
12:55:50 Zash jabber.org ←→ xmpp.org (including muc.) works fine from what I can tell
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12:58:58 Guus Nevermind, I took Matt's response as a "this was already done". Clearly, I was not paying enougt attention.
12:59:19 Guus > Nevermind, I took Matt's response as a "this was already done". Clearly, I was not paying enough attention.
12:59:37 Guus Haaaargh. I can't type or click today.
12:59:55 Guus crawls back under his rock
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13:22:07 eevvoor And here the Link to the Movim Announcement of our Hamburg Meetup tomorrow: https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/de-hamburg-xmpp-meetup/xmpp-meetup-in-hamburg-september-20th-202014h-l3YCrR
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13:23:09 eevvoor Guus, jij wilt zeker straks in de trein stappen en erbij zijn, niet waar? Dan kan je ook weer klicken en typen van zo veel euphorie ... :D
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14:44:47 jonas’ MattJ, I still see pings to jabber.org fail from some xmppobserve probers
14:45:21 Zash jabber.org → jabber.de also fails (maybe the reverse direction, I can't tell)
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14:45:56 jonas’ MattJ, one of them prominently being my own ;)
14:46:07 Zash I suspect they may have set a custom cipher string, which ends up preferring DHE and then they get that 1024bit DHE problem
14:46:11 jonas’ DH key too small
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14:46:34 jonas’ no custom cipher strings
14:46:45 jonas’ but prosoy 0.11.2-1 (debian buster)
14:46:50 jonas’ so maybe that doesn’t qualify as "up to date"
14:47:00 jonas’ the other failing one is, I think, mdosches
14:47:07 jonas’ the other failing one is, I think, the one from mdosch
14:47:32 Zash The ECDHE > DHE string is default in 0.11.6
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14:48:17 Zash Earlier has DHE > ECDHE but with DHE disabled, intended to only be preferred if enabled by setting DH params.
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14:48:51 Zash Buuuuut if the remote has DHE enabled with small DH params... this happens.
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14:50:20 jonas’ I see
14:50:31 jonas’ so I’d have to backports
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20:52:09 emus Stupid question (but serious), and I know I dont have technical understanding, why is it so hard to get jabber.org get running? I mean from your side and your knowledge 😅
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21:39:59 Neustradamus MattJ: I confirm that the problem is always here
21:40:40 Neustradamus A jabber.org user can join this mucroom and will be kicked one second after.
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21:45:36 mdosch jabber.org can't cope with the nick Rixon 👁🗨
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21:54:37 eta isn'
21:54:46 eta isn't jabber.org still running M-Link?
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21:58:31 emus Its the fifth entry if I search "jabber" in my search engine. I count it as important thereby
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23:27:22 Zash Future version of Prosody won't allow 👁🗨 or robot face in nicknames, thus solving that problem.
23:28:30 eta Zash, nooo
23:28:48 eta is that like no non-ASCII whatsoever or just no emoji
23:32:45 Zash I don't wish to spend the night crying under my desk so I shall not discuss this. Short version is to be strict on validity when local resources are created. Usernames, MUC nicknames must comply with the relevant validation profile.
23:33:07 eta Zash, reasonable; will go rtfm :)
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23:40:51 Zash More like read mailing list threads and issue tracker, tho I guess an RFC or five are relevant
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