MattJGlad you're ok Neustradamus, we missed you :)
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Seve😁
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GuusI'm no kinda interested myself
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MattJxmpp.org and all up to date Prosody servers should have no problems with jabber.org now, as far as I know
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ZashIt doesn't as far as I can tell.
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eevvoorF2F XMPP Meetup tommorow in Hamburg, Germany in case somebody does some Corona traveling by coincidence ...
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GuusI'm kinda interested myself
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Guus> xmpp.org and all up to date Prosody servers should have no problems with jabber.org now, as far as I know
So migration had been completed?
ZashNo, up to date Prosody has a tweaked cipher preference and shouldn't have problems.
GuusOh, sorry. My mind doesn't see a difference between xmpp and jabber. Kind of an important distinction when referring to domain names though. 😉
Zashjabber.org ←→ xmpp.org (including muc.) works fine from what I can tell
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GuusNevermind, I took Matt's response as a "this was already done". Clearly, I was not paying enougt attention.
Guus> Nevermind, I took Matt's response as a "this was already done". Clearly, I was not paying enough attention.
GuusHaaaargh. I can't type or click today.
Guuscrawls back under his rock
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eevvoorAnd here the Link to the Movim Announcement of our Hamburg Meetup tomorrow: https://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/de-hamburg-xmpp-meetup/xmpp-meetup-in-hamburg-september-20th-202014h-l3YCrR
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eevvoorGuus, jij wilt zeker straks in de trein stappen en erbij zijn, niet waar? Dan kan je ook weer klicken en typen van zo veel euphorie ... :D
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jonas’MattJ, I still see pings to jabber.org fail from some xmppobserve probers
Zashjabber.org → jabber.de also fails (maybe the reverse direction, I can't tell)
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jonas’MattJ, one of them prominently being my own ;)
ZashI suspect they may have set a custom cipher string, which ends up preferring DHE and then they get that 1024bit DHE problem
jonas’DH key too small
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jonas’no custom cipher strings
jonas’but prosoy 0.11.2-1 (debian buster)
jonas’so maybe that doesn’t qualify as "up to date"
jonas’the other failing one is, I think, mdosches
jonas’the other failing one is, I think, the one from mdosch
ZashThe ECDHE > DHE string is default in 0.11.6
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ZashEarlier has DHE > ECDHE but with DHE disabled, intended to only be preferred if enabled by setting DH params.
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ZashBuuuuut if the remote has DHE enabled with small DH params... this happens.
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jonas’I see
jonas’so I’d have to backports
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emusStupid question (but serious), and I know I dont have technical understanding, why is it so hard to get jabber.org get running? I mean from your side and your knowledge 😅
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NeustradamusMattJ: I confirm that the problem is always here
NeustradamusA jabber.org user can join this mucroom and will be kicked one second after.
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mdoschjabber.org can't cope with the nick Rixon 👁🗨
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etaisn'
etaisn't jabber.org still running M-Link?
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emusIts the fifth entry if I search "jabber" in my search engine. I count it as important thereby
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ZashFuture version of Prosody won't allow 👁🗨 or robot face in nicknames, thus solving that problem.
etaZash, nooo
etais that like no non-ASCII whatsoever or just no emoji
ZashI don't wish to spend the night crying under my desk so I shall not discuss this. Short version is to be strict on validity when local resources are created. Usernames, MUC nicknames must comply with the relevant validation profile.
etaZash, reasonable; will go rtfm :)
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ZashMore like read mailing list threads and issue tracker, tho I guess an RFC or five are relevant