XSF Discussion - 2020-10-14


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  218. MattJ Seeing that XEP-0444 is accepted, does it follow that in Council's opinion that this is the recommended solution for clients that want to implement reactions today?
  219. MattJ Seeing that XEP-0444 is accepted, does it follow that in Council's opinion this is the recommended solution for clients that want to implement reactions today?
  220. jonas’ not necessarily
  221. jonas’ The sentiment is that clients are encouraged to experiment with it
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  223. jonas’ that is explicitly not excluding experiments based on Fastening
  224. jonas’ ( MattJ, could you do me a favor and trigger the docker pull for the xeps on eos? I forgot that yesterday)
  225. MattJ Done
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  247. jonas’ thank you :)
  248. jonas’ I’d also like to quote from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html: > Publication as an XMPP Extension Protocol does not imply approval of this proposal by the XMPP Standards Foundation.
  249. jonas’ :)
  250. MattJ If I thought it did then I wouldn't have asked :)
  251. rion Hi jonas’. Do you want to do anything with https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/905 for it to be merged?
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  253. rion and yes I now remember why I did --amend. You asked me to set changelog date to match with the last commit date.
  254. rion * Do you want me to do anything ...
  255. jonas’ rion, ugh
  256. jonas’ sorry, I missed that one
  257. rion btw LMC already allows to change not just the very last?
  258. jonas’ I only skimmed the most recent PRs yesterday, I didn’t take a look at [Ready to merge]
  259. jonas’ I’ll take care of it right now
  260. rion thx :)
  261. rion and yes, I fixed psi-9999 compilation on Gentoo a couple of days ago )
  262. rion plugins should be ok too
  263. Ge0rG rion: is there an overview of the XMPP compliance of the released versions of Psi/Psi+?
  264. rion nope. I'll take care of this after the upcoming release.
  265. Ge0rG rion: that'd be great
  266. jonas’ rion, things are building, should be done soon!
  267. rion but to be honest I hardly have a minute a day for the project lately :-(
  268. rion jonas’: emerge psi-omemo also from... "layman -a rion"
  269. rion also 9999
  270. jonas’ rion, you seem to confuse me with someone running Gentoo :)
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  272. jonas’ rion, you seem be mixing me up with someone running Gentoo :)
  273. jonas’ rion, you seem be confusing me with someone running Gentoo :)
  274. rion jonas’: oh. gotta check chatlog history ))
  275. rion I believed it was you a few days ago )
  276. jonas’ I think it was floretta
  277. jonas’ *flow
  278. jonas’ sorry floretta :(
  279. rion ah maybe :)
  280. rion flow: ;)
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  297. flow rion, will give it a try
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  302. jonas’ rion, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0371.html \o/
  303. rion hurray! :)
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  423. jonas’ dwd, ping, council@?
  424. dwd Ah, that might be tricky. Power cut here, and so my DNS server is down.
  425. flow dwd that's why one has to memorize the IPs of the most important services! ;)
  426. jonas’ dwd, can you join via webchat?
  427. dwd flow, And obviously I have... But the other servers haven't.
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  536. MattJ For people following the IETF chat saga, we managed to get a modern XMPP service deployed alongside their Matrix and Zulip trials: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI
  537. MattJ It doesn't mean they're staying with XMPP, but at least it is being given a fair chance :)
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  540. Daniel thanks to the people who made this happen
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  542. edhelas yes ! thanks :)
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  548. moparisthebest very nice work whoever was involved
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  550. Guus 👍
  551. Zash 🎉️
  552. mdosch > very nice work whoever was involved +1 👍🏼
  553. moparisthebest I assume someone is giving them client suggestions so they don't try pidgin?
  554. Zash Adium*
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  557. wurstsalat moparisthebest, check https://xmpp-trial1.ietf.org/ > Create account
  558. wurstsalat really nice :)
  559. moparisthebest ok now I see who was behind it, excellent work :D
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  561. MattJ It was a bunch of us, I only joined in at the last minute with the necessary configs... Georg led negotiations and JC helped solve some Converse.js issues
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  569. Seve That's great news, thank you all. Hope they consider it!
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  602. Ge0rG MattJ: I only wrote some emails, you did the most actual work! Thanks for that!
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  606. Zash Don't short-sell the importance of talking to people :)
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  626. flow \o/ Thanks everyone
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  682. emus Great news! Anyone involed mind to write one or two sentences for the newsletter?
  683. emus Great news! Anyone involved mind to write one or two sentences for the newsletter?
  684. MattJ I can, if you make sure I don't forget :)
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  687. emus Sure, I can remind you. still time till the 4th of Nov
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  690. emus Is there a follow up/contact on this or we just let them do their thing?
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  694. MattJ No, there will be follow-up
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  698. MattJ We are discussing the best way to link up with their existing identity provider
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  702. Guus MattJ: if you're available, your help is appreciated in operators@
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  707. Zash (Reading from the web log interface) Could it be Rixon 👁🗨 again?
  708. Zash Guus, MattJ ^
  709. Guus Zash: meaning a nickname causing issues?
  710. Zash Yes. It's not considered a valid JID by jabber.org, so things break.
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  712. Guus K, I'll relay your suggestion to the professionals, tx. 😉
  713. Zash It violates resourceprep iirc.
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  716. Guus Or you join operators@ and contribute to the discussion yourself. 😉
  717. Zash Or does it?
  718. Zash No, I'm going to sleep, not cry under my desk over the various unicode normalization issues.
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  721. Guus Smart. 🙂
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  723. Guus Fwiw, people seem to think you're right.
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  726. MattJ It seems to pass resourceprep to me (or is this the one where is a strict and non-strict mode?)
  727. Guus MattJ: you appear to have the power to boot that one occupant... 😇
  728. Zash Passed here too, but now my laptop is asleep. Maybe jabber.org has a different definition of resourceprep?
  729. Zash Or its some other JID?
  730. MattJ No, it's this one
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