XSF Discussion - 2020-10-14


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  218. MattJ

    Seeing that XEP-0444 is accepted, does it follow that in Council's opinion that this is the recommended solution for clients that want to implement reactions today?

  219. MattJ

    Seeing that XEP-0444 is accepted, does it follow that in Council's opinion this is the recommended solution for clients that want to implement reactions today?

  220. jonas’

    not necessarily

  221. jonas’

    The sentiment is that clients are encouraged to experiment with it

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  223. jonas’

    that is explicitly not excluding experiments based on Fastening

  224. jonas’

    ( MattJ, could you do me a favor and trigger the docker pull for the xeps on eos? I forgot that yesterday)

  225. MattJ

    Done

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  247. jonas’

    thank you :)

  248. jonas’

    I’d also like to quote from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html: > Publication as an XMPP Extension Protocol does not imply approval of this proposal by the XMPP Standards Foundation.

  249. jonas’

    :)

  250. MattJ

    If I thought it did then I wouldn't have asked :)

  251. rion

    Hi jonas’. Do you want to do anything with https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/905 for it to be merged?

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  253. rion

    and yes I now remember why I did --amend. You asked me to set changelog date to match with the last commit date.

  254. rion

    * Do you want me to do anything ...

  255. jonas’

    rion, ugh

  256. jonas’

    sorry, I missed that one

  257. rion

    btw LMC already allows to change not just the very last?

  258. jonas’

    I only skimmed the most recent PRs yesterday, I didn’t take a look at [Ready to merge]

  259. jonas’

    I’ll take care of it right now

  260. rion

    thx :)

  261. rion

    and yes, I fixed psi-9999 compilation on Gentoo a couple of days ago )

  262. rion

    plugins should be ok too

  263. Ge0rG

    rion: is there an overview of the XMPP compliance of the released versions of Psi/Psi+?

  264. rion

    nope. I'll take care of this after the upcoming release.

  265. Ge0rG

    rion: that'd be great

  266. jonas’

    rion, things are building, should be done soon!

  267. rion

    but to be honest I hardly have a minute a day for the project lately :-(

  268. rion

    jonas’: emerge psi-omemo also from... "layman -a rion"

  269. rion

    also 9999

  270. jonas’

    rion, you seem to confuse me with someone running Gentoo :)

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  272. jonas’

    rion, you seem be mixing me up with someone running Gentoo :)

  273. jonas’

    rion, you seem be confusing me with someone running Gentoo :)

  274. rion

    jonas’: oh. gotta check chatlog history ))

  275. rion

    I believed it was you a few days ago )

  276. jonas’

    I think it was floretta

  277. jonas’

    *flow

  278. jonas’

    sorry floretta :(

  279. rion

    ah maybe :)

  280. rion

    flow: ;)

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  297. flow

    rion, will give it a try

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  302. jonas’

    rion, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0371.html \o/

  303. rion

    hurray! :)

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  423. jonas’

    dwd, ping, council@?

  424. dwd

    Ah, that might be tricky. Power cut here, and so my DNS server is down.

  425. flow

    dwd that's why one has to memorize the IPs of the most important services! ;)

  426. jonas’

    dwd, can you join via webchat?

  427. dwd

    flow, And obviously I have... But the other servers haven't.

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  431. Guus

    excuses!

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  536. MattJ

    For people following the IETF chat saga, we managed to get a modern XMPP service deployed alongside their Matrix and Zulip trials: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI

  537. MattJ

    It doesn't mean they're staying with XMPP, but at least it is being given a fair chance :)

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  540. Daniel

    thanks to the people who made this happen

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  542. edhelas

    yes ! thanks :)

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  548. moparisthebest

    very nice work whoever was involved

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  550. Guus

    👍

  551. Zash

    🎉️

  552. mdosch

    > very nice work whoever was involved +1 👍🏼

  553. moparisthebest

    I assume someone is giving them client suggestions so they don't try pidgin?

  554. Zash

    Adium*

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  557. wurstsalat

    moparisthebest, check https://xmpp-trial1.ietf.org/ > Create account

  558. wurstsalat

    really nice :)

  559. moparisthebest

    ok now I see who was behind it, excellent work :D

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  561. MattJ

    It was a bunch of us, I only joined in at the last minute with the necessary configs... Georg led negotiations and JC helped solve some Converse.js issues

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  569. Seve

    That's great news, thank you all. Hope they consider it!

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  602. Ge0rG

    MattJ: I only wrote some emails, you did the most actual work! Thanks for that!

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  606. Zash

    Don't short-sell the importance of talking to people :)

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  626. flow

    \o/ Thanks everyone

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  660. Guus

    .

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  682. emus

    Great news! Anyone involed mind to write one or two sentences for the newsletter?

  683. emus

    Great news! Anyone involved mind to write one or two sentences for the newsletter?

  684. MattJ

    I can, if you make sure I don't forget :)

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  687. emus

    Sure, I can remind you. still time till the 4th of Nov

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  690. emus

    Is there a follow up/contact on this or we just let them do their thing?

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  694. MattJ

    No, there will be follow-up

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  698. MattJ

    We are discussing the best way to link up with their existing identity provider

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  702. Guus

    MattJ: if you're available, your help is appreciated in operators@

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  707. Zash

    (Reading from the web log interface) Could it be Rixon 👁🗨 again?

  708. Zash

    Guus, MattJ ^

  709. Guus

    Zash: meaning a nickname causing issues?

  710. Zash

    Yes. It's not considered a valid JID by jabber.org, so things break.

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  712. Guus

    K, I'll relay your suggestion to the professionals, tx. 😉

  713. Zash

    It violates resourceprep iirc.

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  716. Guus

    Or you join operators@ and contribute to the discussion yourself. 😉

  717. Zash

    Or does it?

  718. Zash

    No, I'm going to sleep, not cry under my desk over the various unicode normalization issues.

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  721. Guus

    Smart. 🙂

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  723. Guus

    Fwiw, people seem to think you're right.

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  726. MattJ

    It seems to pass resourceprep to me (or is this the one where is a strict and non-strict mode?)

  727. Guus

    MattJ: you appear to have the power to boot that one occupant... 😇

  728. Zash

    Passed here too, but now my laptop is asleep. Maybe jabber.org has a different definition of resourceprep?

  729. Zash

    Or its some other JID?

  730. MattJ

    No, it's this one

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