XSF Discussion - 2020-10-14

Seeing that XEP-0444 is accepted, does it follow that in Council's opinion this is the recommended solution for clients that want to implement reactions today? ✏

not necessarily

The sentiment is that clients are encouraged to experiment with it

that is explicitly not excluding experiments based on Fastening

( MattJ, could you do me a favor and trigger the docker pull for the xeps on eos? I forgot that yesterday)

Done

thank you :)

I’d also like to quote from https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html: > Publication as an XMPP Extension Protocol does not imply approval of this proposal by the XMPP Standards Foundation.

:)

If I thought it did then I wouldn't have asked :)

Hi jonas’. Do you want to do anything with https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/905 for it to be merged?

and yes I now remember why I did --amend. You asked me to set changelog date to match with the last commit date.

* Do you want me to do anything ...

rion, ugh

sorry, I missed that one

btw LMC already allows to change not just the very last?

I only skimmed the most recent PRs yesterday, I didn’t take a look at [Ready to merge]

I’ll take care of it right now

thx :)

and yes, I fixed psi-9999 compilation on Gentoo a couple of days ago )

plugins should be ok too

rion: is there an overview of the XMPP compliance of the released versions of Psi/Psi+?

nope. I'll take care of this after the upcoming release.

rion: that'd be great

rion, things are building, should be done soon!

but to be honest I hardly have a minute a day for the project lately :-(

jonas’: emerge psi-omemo also from... "layman -a rion"

also 9999

rion, you seem be mixing me up with someone running Gentoo :) ✏

rion, you seem be confusing me with someone running Gentoo :) ✏

jonas’: oh. gotta check chatlog history ))

I believed it was you a few days ago )

I think it was floretta

*flow

sorry floretta :(

ah maybe :)

flow: ;)

rion, will give it a try

rion, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0371.html \o/

hurray! :)

dwd, ping, council@?

Ah, that might be tricky. Power cut here, and so my DNS server is down.

dwd that's why one has to memorize the IPs of the most important services! ;)

dwd, can you join via webchat?

flow, And obviously I have... But the other servers haven't.

excuses!

For people following the IETF chat saga, we managed to get a modern XMPP service deployed alongside their Matrix and Zulip trials: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI

It doesn't mean they're staying with XMPP, but at least it is being given a fair chance :)

thanks to the people who made this happen

yes ! thanks :)

very nice work whoever was involved

👍

🎉️

> very nice work whoever was involved +1 👍🏼

I assume someone is giving them client suggestions so they don't try pidgin?

Adium*

moparisthebest, check https://xmpp-trial1.ietf.org/ > Create account

really nice :)

ok now I see who was behind it, excellent work :D

It was a bunch of us, I only joined in at the last minute with the necessary configs... Georg led negotiations and JC helped solve some Converse.js issues

That's great news, thank you all. Hope they consider it!

MattJ: I only wrote some emails, you did the most actual work! Thanks for that!

Don't short-sell the importance of talking to people :)

\o/ Thanks everyone

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Great news! Anyone involved mind to write one or two sentences for the newsletter? ✏

I can, if you make sure I don't forget :)

Sure, I can remind you. still time till the 4th of Nov

Is there a follow up/contact on this or we just let them do their thing?

No, there will be follow-up

We are discussing the best way to link up with their existing identity provider

MattJ: if you're available, your help is appreciated in operators@

(Reading from the web log interface) Could it be Rixon 👁🗨 again?

Guus, MattJ ^

Zash: meaning a nickname causing issues?

Yes. It's not considered a valid JID by jabber.org, so things break.

K, I'll relay your suggestion to the professionals, tx. 😉

It violates resourceprep iirc.

Or you join operators@ and contribute to the discussion yourself. 😉

Or does it?

No, I'm going to sleep, not cry under my desk over the various unicode normalization issues.

Smart. 🙂

Fwiw, people seem to think you're right.

It seems to pass resourceprep to me (or is this the one where is a strict and non-strict mode?)

MattJ: you appear to have the power to boot that one occupant... 😇

Passed here too, but now my laptop is asleep. Maybe jabber.org has a different definition of resourceprep?

Or its some other JID?

No, it's this one