ZashToday in Things I Haven't Noticed In XEP-0045 Before:
> How nickname conflicts are determined is up to the implementation (e.g., whether the service applies a case folding routine, a stringprep profile such as Resourceprep or Nodeprep, etc.).
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etaI feel like the way XEP-0045 is structured makes it hard to understand
ZashMy XEP is too big!
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emusI would be happy to introduce a monthly Newsletter section like:
Did you now? XEP-999 allows you to / states that / recommends to ...
emusAnything which is commonly unknown or very often misunderstood
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ZashThis month XEP-0060 grew twelve new sections. Learn how you can stay safe from this monster!
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emus😁
Seriously, I can imagine there are many of those myths and corner cases
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edhelas13 things you didn't knew that are in 0060, the 5th one will surprise you !
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emusNo need to become click bait for sure
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pep.I won't be available for the meeting today. Sorry for the late notice
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ralphmbangs gavel
ralphm0. Welcome
ralphmHi! Who do we have? I see pep. has sent his regrets.
Sevesends 👋 emoji
ralphmThanks you for your gracious gift :-D
ralphmThank you for your gracious gift :-D
SeveGuus, MattJ: another for you 👋
SeveHah
MattJo/
emus\me reading (◕‿◕)
Guus\o
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ralphmI see MattJ raised an item for discussion. Additionally, I was browsing through the "Awaiting feedback" and "Backburner" items, and some of those are over a year old. Either we pick up on them, or call it a loss.
ralphmAnything else?
Guusnone here
ralphm1. Minute taker
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Guusright, here we go again. I've actually got better things to do than play this game. I'm off to work again.
ralphmFrom what I can tell, pep. made minutes the last two meetings, and I before that. I believe we agreed to rotate, but if you prefer I appoint someone each meeting, I'd be happy to.
MattJWhatever, I'll (try to) do it
ralphmThanks MattJ
ralphm2. XEP-0001 clarifications
ralphmWhat is the thing we need to do here?
MattJAIUI it was generally agreed that XEP-0001 doesn't reflect the way we actually do some things these days
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MattJand there is no progress on updating it
ralphmRight, the 'few days' of stepping back that Kev suggested has been a slight bit longer.
ralphmWhat I can do is revisit the points being made around then, ask Kev if he's still interested in writing up a PR, and if not, suggest a change myself.
MattJSounds good
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SeveSounds good to me, yes 🙂
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Seve(Thank you)
ralphmAll right.
ralphm3. Old agenda items
ralphmAs mentioned at 0), we have a bunch of old cruft in there.
ralphmE.g. the server setup with MattJ and Messenger Regulation with Ge0rG.
ralphmAlso Adopt a Character, typos with jonas’, and the item on hiring a comms person.
Ge0rGthe Messenger Regulations folks promised to contact me, and didn't. Whereas I promised to stay in contact and... didn't
ralphmGe0rG, right. I was pointed to a recent article in Heise, with Mrs. Reda's point of view, but I'm unsure how to procede from where we are.
Ge0rGralphm: I've read that but didn't really draw the conclusions regarding XMPP
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ralphmWell, maybe something as fundamental as the XMPP protocol isn't even on her radar, but she seems to think that she can fund her way out it.
ralphmGe0rG, anyway, is there anything we can do at this point? Do you intend to follow-up?
Ge0rGralphm: I'd like to, but I just lacked the time. I should write a follow-up mail to that German gov't office person
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SeveRegarding the Adopt a Character, I was in favour of it but not sure what happened after flow picked it up. I can't take more tasks right now, so unfortunately if there is no one that could work on this, we might need to call it a loss
ralphmGe0rG, I know the feeling. If you still want to do it, I'll update the card to that end.
Ge0rGralphm: please do
ralphmThanks!
ralphmSeve, right. I'll keep this one for a bit, and see if flow can send us an update
ralphmMattJ, where are we with our server setup? Is there anything that Board can do?
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MattJI haven't had time to dedicate to it, as most of my volunteering time (and more) has been on other related things, such as the recent IETF effort
Ge0rGralphm: there is now an Official Test Instance for the IETF, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/
Ge0rGMany thanks to MattJ for setting up things and providing configs
MattJBut I don't think we're in a bad place, and are making slow progress - jonas’ has some automation that he'll deploy soon, which should fix the issues with the website and other things not updating automatically
ralphmAh, that's great to know.
MattJXSF infra competes for the same block of time as things like the jabber.org migration, which is still ongoing
ralphmon both IETF and our own infra
ralphmunderstood, I'll keep it for now then
ralphmI'll try and revisit these items more often.
ralphm4. AOB
ralphm?
SeveAll good here
MattJGood here
ralphm5. Date of Next
ralphm+1W
ralphm6. Close
ralphmThanks all!
ralphmbangs gavel
SeveThank youu, have a good rest of the week 😃
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ZashTIL this registry https://xmpp.org/registrar/nodes.html
Zash"pubsub/nodes" isn't in XEP-0060?
ZashCould this have been part of the broken out node tree stuff?
larmaWasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years?
larmaWasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years ago?