XSF Discussion - 2020-10-15


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  199. Zash Today in Things I Haven't Noticed In XEP-0045 Before: > How nickname conflicts are determined is up to the implementation (e.g., whether the service applies a case folding routine, a stringprep profile such as Resourceprep or Nodeprep, etc.).
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  205. eta I feel like the way XEP-0045 is structured makes it hard to understand
  206. Zash My XEP is too big!
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  224. emus I would be happy to introduce a monthly Newsletter section like: Did you now? XEP-999 allows you to / states that / recommends to ...
  225. emus Anything which is commonly unknown or very often misunderstood
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  228. Zash This month XEP-0060 grew twelve new sections. Learn how you can stay safe from this monster!
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  234. emus 😁 Seriously, I can imagine there are many of those myths and corner cases
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  252. edhelas 13 things you didn't knew that are in 0060, the 5th one will surprise you !
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  265. emus No need to become click bait for sure
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  286. pep. I won't be available for the meeting today. Sorry for the late notice
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  298. ralphm bangs gavel
  299. ralphm 0. Welcome
  300. ralphm Hi! Who do we have? I see pep. has sent his regrets.
  301. Seve sends πŸ‘‹ emoji
  302. ralphm Thanks you for your gracious gift :-D
  303. ralphm Thank you for your gracious gift :-D
  304. Seve Guus, MattJ: another for you πŸ‘‹
  305. Seve Hah
  306. MattJ o/
  307. emus \me reading (β—•β€Ώβ—•)
  308. Guus \o
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  311. ralphm I see MattJ raised an item for discussion. Additionally, I was browsing through the "Awaiting feedback" and "Backburner" items, and some of those are over a year old. Either we pick up on them, or call it a loss.
  312. ralphm Anything else?
  313. Guus none here
  314. ralphm 1. Minute taker
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  316. Guus right, here we go again. I've actually got better things to do than play this game. I'm off to work again.
  317. ralphm From what I can tell, pep. made minutes the last two meetings, and I before that. I believe we agreed to rotate, but if you prefer I appoint someone each meeting, I'd be happy to.
  318. MattJ Whatever, I'll (try to) do it
  319. ralphm Thanks MattJ
  320. ralphm 2. XEP-0001 clarifications
  321. ralphm What is the thing we need to do here?
  322. MattJ AIUI it was generally agreed that XEP-0001 doesn't reflect the way we actually do some things these days
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  324. MattJ and there is no progress on updating it
  325. ralphm Right, the 'few days' of stepping back that Kev suggested has been a slight bit longer.
  326. ralphm What I can do is revisit the points being made around then, ask Kev if he's still interested in writing up a PR, and if not, suggest a change myself.
  327. MattJ Sounds good
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  329. Seve Sounds good to me, yes πŸ™‚
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  331. Seve (Thank you)
  332. ralphm All right.
  333. ralphm 3. Old agenda items
  334. ralphm As mentioned at 0), we have a bunch of old cruft in there.
  335. ralphm E.g. the server setup with MattJ and Messenger Regulation with Ge0rG.
  336. ralphm Also Adopt a Character, typos with jonas’, and the item on hiring a comms person.
  337. Ge0rG the Messenger Regulations folks promised to contact me, and didn't. Whereas I promised to stay in contact and... didn't
  338. ralphm Ge0rG, right. I was pointed to a recent article in Heise, with Mrs. Reda's point of view, but I'm unsure how to procede from where we are.
  339. Ge0rG ralphm: the European sovereignity one?
  340. ralphm https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1315539804705239047
  341. Ge0rG ralphm: I've read that but didn't really draw the conclusions regarding XMPP
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  343. ralphm Well, maybe something as fundamental as the XMPP protocol isn't even on her radar, but she seems to think that she can fund her way out it.
  344. ralphm Ge0rG, anyway, is there anything we can do at this point? Do you intend to follow-up?
  345. Ge0rG ralphm: I'd like to, but I just lacked the time. I should write a follow-up mail to that German gov't office person
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  347. Seve Regarding the Adopt a Character, I was in favour of it but not sure what happened after flow picked it up. I can't take more tasks right now, so unfortunately if there is no one that could work on this, we might need to call it a loss
  348. ralphm Ge0rG, I know the feeling. If you still want to do it, I'll update the card to that end.
  349. Ge0rG ralphm: please do
  350. ralphm Thanks!
  351. ralphm Seve, right. I'll keep this one for a bit, and see if flow can send us an update
  352. ralphm MattJ, where are we with our server setup? Is there anything that Board can do?
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  355. MattJ I haven't had time to dedicate to it, as most of my volunteering time (and more) has been on other related things, such as the recent IETF effort
  356. Ge0rG ralphm: there is now an Official Test Instance for the IETF, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/
  357. Ge0rG Many thanks to MattJ for setting up things and providing configs
  358. MattJ But I don't think we're in a bad place, and are making slow progress - jonas’ has some automation that he'll deploy soon, which should fix the issues with the website and other things not updating automatically
  359. ralphm Ah, that's great to know.
  360. MattJ XSF infra competes for the same block of time as things like the jabber.org migration, which is still ongoing
  361. ralphm on both IETF and our own infra
  362. ralphm understood, I'll keep it for now then
  363. ralphm I'll try and revisit these items more often.
  364. ralphm 4. AOB
  365. ralphm ?
  366. Seve All good here
  367. MattJ Good here
  368. ralphm 5. Date of Next
  369. ralphm +1W
  370. ralphm 6. Close
  371. ralphm Thanks all!
  372. ralphm bangs gavel
  373. Seve Thank youu, have a good rest of the week πŸ˜ƒ
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  479. Zash TIL this registry https://xmpp.org/registrar/nodes.html
  480. Zash "pubsub/nodes" isn't in XEP-0060?
  481. Zash Could this have been part of the broken out node tree stuff?
  482. larma Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years?
  483. larma Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years ago?
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  486. Zash Something like that
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