XSF Discussion - 2020-10-15

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10:33:42 Zash Today in Things I Haven't Noticed In XEP-0045 Before: > How nickname conflicts are determined is up to the implementation (e.g., whether the service applies a case folding routine, a stringprep profile such as Resourceprep or Nodeprep, etc.).
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10:57:53 eta I feel like the way XEP-0045 is structured makes it hard to understand
10:59:25 Zash My XEP is too big!
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11:59:37 emus I would be happy to introduce a monthly Newsletter section like: Did you now? XEP-999 allows you to / states that / recommends to ...
12:00:09 emus Anything which is commonly unknown or very often misunderstood
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12:02:08 Zash This month XEP-0060 grew twelve new sections. Learn how you can stay safe from this monster!
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12:10:08 emus 😁 Seriously, I can imagine there are many of those myths and corner cases
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12:28:06 edhelas 13 things you didn't knew that are in 0060, the 5th one will surprise you !
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12:32:38 emus No need to become click bait for sure
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13:09:03 pep. I won't be available for the meeting today. Sorry for the late notice
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13:30:22 ralphm bangs gavel
13:30:24 ralphm 0. Welcome
13:30:38 ralphm Hi! Who do we have? I see pep. has sent his regrets.
13:30:51 Seve sends 👋 emoji
13:31:15 ralphm Thanks you for your gracious gift :-D
13:31:25 ralphm Thank you for your gracious gift :-D
13:31:34 Seve Guus, MattJ: another for you 👋
13:31:37 Seve Hah
13:31:43 MattJ o/
13:31:46 emus \me reading (◕‿◕)
13:31:59 Guus \o
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13:33:09 ralphm I see MattJ raised an item for discussion. Additionally, I was browsing through the "Awaiting feedback" and "Backburner" items, and some of those are over a year old. Either we pick up on them, or call it a loss.
13:33:21 ralphm Anything else?
13:33:31 Guus none here
13:33:46 ralphm 1. Minute taker
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13:38:52 Guus right, here we go again. I've actually got better things to do than play this game. I'm off to work again.
13:39:48 ralphm From what I can tell, pep. made minutes the last two meetings, and I before that. I believe we agreed to rotate, but if you prefer I appoint someone each meeting, I'd be happy to.
13:40:54 MattJ Whatever, I'll (try to) do it
13:40:59 ralphm Thanks MattJ
13:41:11 ralphm 2. XEP-0001 clarifications
13:42:16 ralphm What is the thing we need to do here?
13:43:15 MattJ AIUI it was generally agreed that XEP-0001 doesn't reflect the way we actually do some things these days
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13:44:02 MattJ and there is no progress on updating it
13:44:53 ralphm Right, the 'few days' of stepping back that Kev suggested has been a slight bit longer.
13:46:58 ralphm What I can do is revisit the points being made around then, ask Kev if he's still interested in writing up a PR, and if not, suggest a change myself.
13:47:32 MattJ Sounds good
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13:47:39 Seve Sounds good to me, yes 🙂
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13:48:26 Seve (Thank you)
13:48:55 ralphm All right.
13:49:11 ralphm 3. Old agenda items
13:49:26 ralphm As mentioned at 0), we have a bunch of old cruft in there.
13:49:55 ralphm E.g. the server setup with MattJ and Messenger Regulation with Ge0rG.
13:50:34 ralphm Also Adopt a Character, typos with jonas’, and the item on hiring a comms person.
13:50:35 Ge0rG the Messenger Regulations folks promised to contact me, and didn't. Whereas I promised to stay in contact and... didn't
13:52:18 ralphm Ge0rG, right. I was pointed to a recent article in Heise, with Mrs. Reda's point of view, but I'm unsure how to procede from where we are.
13:52:41 Ge0rG ralphm: the European sovereignity one?
13:52:53 ralphm https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1315539804705239047
13:53:46 Ge0rG ralphm: I've read that but didn't really draw the conclusions regarding XMPP
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13:55:43 ralphm Well, maybe something as fundamental as the XMPP protocol isn't even on her radar, but she seems to think that she can fund her way out it.
13:56:26 ralphm Ge0rG, anyway, is there anything we can do at this point? Do you intend to follow-up?
13:57:19 Ge0rG ralphm: I'd like to, but I just lacked the time. I should write a follow-up mail to that German gov't office person
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13:59:03 Seve Regarding the Adopt a Character, I was in favour of it but not sure what happened after flow picked it up. I can't take more tasks right now, so unfortunately if there is no one that could work on this, we might need to call it a loss
13:59:16 ralphm Ge0rG, I know the feeling. If you still want to do it, I'll update the card to that end.
13:59:36 Ge0rG ralphm: please do
14:01:05 ralphm Thanks!
14:01:33 ralphm Seve, right. I'll keep this one for a bit, and see if flow can send us an update
14:02:11 ralphm MattJ, where are we with our server setup? Is there anything that Board can do?
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14:03:01 MattJ I haven't had time to dedicate to it, as most of my volunteering time (and more) has been on other related things, such as the recent IETF effort
14:03:25 Ge0rG ralphm: there is now an Official Test Instance for the IETF, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/
14:03:39 Ge0rG Many thanks to MattJ for setting up things and providing configs
14:03:44 MattJ But I don't think we're in a bad place, and are making slow progress - jonas’ has some automation that he'll deploy soon, which should fix the issues with the website and other things not updating automatically
14:04:25 ralphm Ah, that's great to know.
14:04:34 MattJ XSF infra competes for the same block of time as things like the jabber.org migration, which is still ongoing
14:04:42 ralphm on both IETF and our own infra
14:05:02 ralphm understood, I'll keep it for now then
14:05:18 ralphm I'll try and revisit these items more often.
14:05:22 ralphm 4. AOB
14:05:23 ralphm ?
14:05:33 Seve All good here
14:05:52 MattJ Good here
14:06:35 ralphm 5. Date of Next
14:06:36 ralphm +1W
14:06:38 ralphm 6. Close
14:06:44 ralphm Thanks all!
14:06:47 ralphm bangs gavel
14:06:57 Seve Thank youu, have a good rest of the week 😃
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17:22:38 Zash TIL this registry https://xmpp.org/registrar/nodes.html
17:23:46 Zash "pubsub/nodes" isn't in XEP-0060?
17:24:26 Zash Could this have been part of the broken out node tree stuff?
17:24:43 larma Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years?
17:24:58 larma Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years ago?
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17:25:39 Zash Something like that
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