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Zash
Today in Things I Haven't Noticed In XEP-0045 Before: > How nickname conflicts are determined is up to the implementation (e.g., whether the service applies a case folding routine, a stringprep profile such as Resourceprep or Nodeprep, etc.).
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eta
I feel like the way XEP-0045 is structured makes it hard to understand
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Zash
My XEP is too big!
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emus
I would be happy to introduce a monthly Newsletter section like: Did you now? XEP-999 allows you to / states that / recommends to ...
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emus
Anything which is commonly unknown or very often misunderstood
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Zash
This month XEP-0060 grew twelve new sections. Learn how you can stay safe from this monster!
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emus
π Seriously, I can imagine there are many of those myths and corner cases
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edhelas
13 things you didn't knew that are in 0060, the 5th one will surprise you !
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emus
No need to become click bait for sure
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pep.
I won't be available for the meeting today. Sorry for the late notice
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ralphm
0. Welcome
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ralphm
Hi! Who do we have? I see pep. has sent his regrets.
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ralphm
Thanks you for your gracious gift :-D✎ -
ralphm
Thank you for your gracious gift :-D ✏
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Seve
Guus, MattJ: another for you π
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Seve
Hah
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MattJ
o/
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emus
\me reading (ββΏβ)
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Guus
\o
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ralphm
I see MattJ raised an item for discussion. Additionally, I was browsing through the "Awaiting feedback" and "Backburner" items, and some of those are over a year old. Either we pick up on them, or call it a loss.
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ralphm
Anything else?
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Guus
none here
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ralphm
1. Minute taker
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Guus
right, here we go again. I've actually got better things to do than play this game. I'm off to work again.
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ralphm
From what I can tell, pep. made minutes the last two meetings, and I before that. I believe we agreed to rotate, but if you prefer I appoint someone each meeting, I'd be happy to.
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MattJ
Whatever, I'll (try to) do it
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ralphm
Thanks MattJ
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ralphm
2. XEP-0001 clarifications
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ralphm
What is the thing we need to do here?
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MattJ
AIUI it was generally agreed that XEP-0001 doesn't reflect the way we actually do some things these days
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MattJ
and there is no progress on updating it
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ralphm
Right, the 'few days' of stepping back that Kev suggested has been a slight bit longer.
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ralphm
What I can do is revisit the points being made around then, ask Kev if he's still interested in writing up a PR, and if not, suggest a change myself.
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MattJ
Sounds good
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Seve
Sounds good to me, yes π
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Seve
(Thank you)
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ralphm
All right.
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ralphm
3. Old agenda items
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ralphm
As mentioned at 0), we have a bunch of old cruft in there.
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ralphm
E.g. the server setup with MattJ and Messenger Regulation with Ge0rG.
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ralphm
Also Adopt a Character, typos with jonasβ, and the item on hiring a comms person.
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Ge0rG
the Messenger Regulations folks promised to contact me, and didn't. Whereas I promised to stay in contact and... didn't
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ralphm
Ge0rG, right. I was pointed to a recent article in Heise, with Mrs. Reda's point of view, but I'm unsure how to procede from where we are.
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Ge0rG
ralphm: the European sovereignity one?
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ralphm
https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1315539804705239047
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Ge0rG
ralphm: I've read that but didn't really draw the conclusions regarding XMPP
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ralphm
Well, maybe something as fundamental as the XMPP protocol isn't even on her radar, but she seems to think that she can fund her way out it.
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ralphm
Ge0rG, anyway, is there anything we can do at this point? Do you intend to follow-up?
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Ge0rG
ralphm: I'd like to, but I just lacked the time. I should write a follow-up mail to that German gov't office person
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Seve
Regarding the Adopt a Character, I was in favour of it but not sure what happened after flow picked it up. I can't take more tasks right now, so unfortunately if there is no one that could work on this, we might need to call it a loss
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ralphm
Ge0rG, I know the feeling. If you still want to do it, I'll update the card to that end.
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Ge0rG
ralphm: please do
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ralphm
Thanks!
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ralphm
Seve, right. I'll keep this one for a bit, and see if flow can send us an update
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ralphm
MattJ, where are we with our server setup? Is there anything that Board can do?
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MattJ
I haven't had time to dedicate to it, as most of my volunteering time (and more) has been on other related things, such as the recent IETF effort
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Ge0rG
ralphm: there is now an Official Test Instance for the IETF, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/
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Ge0rG
Many thanks to MattJ for setting up things and providing configs
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MattJ
But I don't think we're in a bad place, and are making slow progress - jonasβ has some automation that he'll deploy soon, which should fix the issues with the website and other things not updating automatically
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ralphm
Ah, that's great to know.
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MattJ
XSF infra competes for the same block of time as things like the jabber.org migration, which is still ongoing
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ralphm
on both IETF and our own infra
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ralphm
understood, I'll keep it for now then
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ralphm
I'll try and revisit these items more often.
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ralphm
4. AOB
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ralphm
?
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Seve
All good here
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MattJ
Good here
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ralphm
5. Date of Next
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ralphm
+1W
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ralphm
6. Close
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ralphm
Thanks all!
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Seve
Thank youu, have a good rest of the week π
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Zash
TIL this registry https://xmpp.org/registrar/nodes.html
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Zash
"pubsub/nodes" isn't in XEP-0060?
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Zash
Could this have been part of the broken out node tree stuff?
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larma
Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years?✎ -
larma
Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years ago? ✏
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Zash
Something like that