XSF Discussion - 2020-10-15


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  199. Zash

    Today in Things I Haven't Noticed In XEP-0045 Before: > How nickname conflicts are determined is up to the implementation (e.g., whether the service applies a case folding routine, a stringprep profile such as Resourceprep or Nodeprep, etc.).

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  205. eta

    I feel like the way XEP-0045 is structured makes it hard to understand

  206. Zash

    My XEP is too big!

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  224. emus

    I would be happy to introduce a monthly Newsletter section like: Did you now? XEP-999 allows you to / states that / recommends to ...

  225. emus

    Anything which is commonly unknown or very often misunderstood

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  228. Zash

    This month XEP-0060 grew twelve new sections. Learn how you can stay safe from this monster!

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  234. emus

    😁 Seriously, I can imagine there are many of those myths and corner cases

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  252. edhelas

    13 things you didn't knew that are in 0060, the 5th one will surprise you !

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  265. emus

    No need to become click bait for sure

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  286. pep.

    I won't be available for the meeting today. Sorry for the late notice

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  299. ralphm

    0. Welcome

  300. ralphm

    Hi! Who do we have? I see pep. has sent his regrets.

  301. Seve sends πŸ‘‹ emoji

  302. ralphm

    Thanks you for your gracious gift :-D

  303. ralphm

    Thank you for your gracious gift :-D

  304. Seve

    Guus, MattJ: another for you πŸ‘‹

  305. Seve

    Hah

  306. MattJ

    o/

  307. emus

    \me reading (β—•β€Ώβ—•)

  308. Guus

    \o

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  311. ralphm

    I see MattJ raised an item for discussion. Additionally, I was browsing through the "Awaiting feedback" and "Backburner" items, and some of those are over a year old. Either we pick up on them, or call it a loss.

  312. ralphm

    Anything else?

  313. Guus

    none here

  314. ralphm

    1. Minute taker

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  316. Guus

    right, here we go again. I've actually got better things to do than play this game. I'm off to work again.

  317. ralphm

    From what I can tell, pep. made minutes the last two meetings, and I before that. I believe we agreed to rotate, but if you prefer I appoint someone each meeting, I'd be happy to.

  318. MattJ

    Whatever, I'll (try to) do it

  319. ralphm

    Thanks MattJ

  320. ralphm

    2. XEP-0001 clarifications

  321. ralphm

    What is the thing we need to do here?

  322. MattJ

    AIUI it was generally agreed that XEP-0001 doesn't reflect the way we actually do some things these days

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  324. MattJ

    and there is no progress on updating it

  325. ralphm

    Right, the 'few days' of stepping back that Kev suggested has been a slight bit longer.

  326. ralphm

    What I can do is revisit the points being made around then, ask Kev if he's still interested in writing up a PR, and if not, suggest a change myself.

  327. MattJ

    Sounds good

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  329. Seve

    Sounds good to me, yes πŸ™‚

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  331. Seve

    (Thank you)

  332. ralphm

    All right.

  333. ralphm

    3. Old agenda items

  334. ralphm

    As mentioned at 0), we have a bunch of old cruft in there.

  335. ralphm

    E.g. the server setup with MattJ and Messenger Regulation with Ge0rG.

  336. ralphm

    Also Adopt a Character, typos with jonas’, and the item on hiring a comms person.

  337. Ge0rG

    the Messenger Regulations folks promised to contact me, and didn't. Whereas I promised to stay in contact and... didn't

  338. ralphm

    Ge0rG, right. I was pointed to a recent article in Heise, with Mrs. Reda's point of view, but I'm unsure how to procede from where we are.

  339. Ge0rG

    ralphm: the European sovereignity one?

  340. ralphm

    https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1315539804705239047

  341. Ge0rG

    ralphm: I've read that but didn't really draw the conclusions regarding XMPP

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  343. ralphm

    Well, maybe something as fundamental as the XMPP protocol isn't even on her radar, but she seems to think that she can fund her way out it.

  344. ralphm

    Ge0rG, anyway, is there anything we can do at this point? Do you intend to follow-up?

  345. Ge0rG

    ralphm: I'd like to, but I just lacked the time. I should write a follow-up mail to that German gov't office person

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  347. Seve

    Regarding the Adopt a Character, I was in favour of it but not sure what happened after flow picked it up. I can't take more tasks right now, so unfortunately if there is no one that could work on this, we might need to call it a loss

  348. ralphm

    Ge0rG, I know the feeling. If you still want to do it, I'll update the card to that end.

  349. Ge0rG

    ralphm: please do

  350. ralphm

    Thanks!

  351. ralphm

    Seve, right. I'll keep this one for a bit, and see if flow can send us an update

  352. ralphm

    MattJ, where are we with our server setup? Is there anything that Board can do?

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  355. MattJ

    I haven't had time to dedicate to it, as most of my volunteering time (and more) has been on other related things, such as the recent IETF effort

  356. Ge0rG

    ralphm: there is now an Official Test Instance for the IETF, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/

  357. Ge0rG

    Many thanks to MattJ for setting up things and providing configs

  358. MattJ

    But I don't think we're in a bad place, and are making slow progress - jonas’ has some automation that he'll deploy soon, which should fix the issues with the website and other things not updating automatically

  359. ralphm

    Ah, that's great to know.

  360. MattJ

    XSF infra competes for the same block of time as things like the jabber.org migration, which is still ongoing

  361. ralphm

    on both IETF and our own infra

  362. ralphm

    understood, I'll keep it for now then

  363. ralphm

    I'll try and revisit these items more often.

  364. ralphm

    4. AOB

  365. ralphm

    ?

  366. Seve

    All good here

  367. MattJ

    Good here

  368. ralphm

    5. Date of Next

  369. ralphm

    +1W

  370. ralphm

    6. Close

  371. ralphm

    Thanks all!

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  373. Seve

    Thank youu, have a good rest of the week πŸ˜ƒ

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  479. Zash

    TIL this registry https://xmpp.org/registrar/nodes.html

  480. Zash

    "pubsub/nodes" isn't in XEP-0060?

  481. Zash

    Could this have been part of the broken out node tree stuff?

  482. larma

    Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years?

  483. larma

    Wasn't registrar the joke that is not maintained since >10 years ago?

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  486. Zash

    Something like that

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