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MattJ
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Apart from XEP-0313, does anyone know other features that the client must disco their account to discover?
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Zash
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Carbons?
Link Mauve
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vCard conversion?
Link Mauve
13:59:34
And bookmarks conversions, all three of them?
MattJ
13:59:42
Not carbons, according to the XEP
Link Mauve
13:59:59
Also PEP stuff most likely.
MattJ
14:00:47
It's just come to my attention that this stuff isn't covered by the caps we put in stream:features
Zash
14:02:26
True
Zash
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Also account vs host features is weird
MattJ
14:03:41
That's the discussion I'm having with a client dev right now :/
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flow
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put user caps string too in stream:features?
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Can you?
Zash
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Post-SASL?
MattJ
14:18:54
Seems like a sensible solution, obviously you need to differentiate the two somehow
flow
14:19:52
Zash, probably even in sasl's <success/>
jonas’
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add an @address attribute to <caps/>?
jonas’
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so that you can have multiple in <stream:features/>?
jonas’
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I hear '390 is still experimental
Zash
14:20:13
jonas’, do it
Zash
14:20:24
and then we can shove in subdomains as well :)
flow
14:20:36
+1
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Zash
14:20:47
I had some ideas around a recursive disco#items-like thing that'd include caps of its items
jonas’
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pep., https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/988 poke ✎
jonas’
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(nothing to see here) ✏
jonas’
14:23:07
MattJ, related: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/924
jonas’
14:23:13
IMO account is the logical entity
jonas’
14:23:19
but there is some prior art in the other direction
Zash
14:23:58
Uh, fun
MattJ
14:24:08
Yes, 191 was the first I checked actually when looking for "proof" :)
jonas’
14:24:22
fun fact: I made that PR because of a deployment where '191 is *not* available for all accounts
Zash
14:25:18
jonas’: Breaking change to a Draft XEP? Mmmmmmmm
jonas’
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Zash, good point :)
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Holger, do you know if ejabberd advertises MAM on the server JID?
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I guess an XML console can tell me
MattJ
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unless it replies differently to remote users
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Holger
14:45:15
MattJ, yes MAM is advertised both on the server and account JID.
Holger
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I think an older revision mandated the server JID? Or some client(s) assumed it ... 😕
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Seems some clients definitely assume it :(
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I don't know about older XEP revisions
MattJ
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Apparently Openfire is also guilty of this
MattJ
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I want one of these to be combined with "and if you sent a MAM query to the server JID, a local user can access all messages that the server has seen"
Holger
15:00:33
> Apparently Openfire is also guilty of this
I think it's our specs fault 🙂 My impression was we were moving from server to account JID (where it makes sense), but only half-heartedly. IIRC I PRd against multiple XEP examples that got it wrong and stuff.
Holger
15:01:43
https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0313-0.1.html#sect-id124837
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Makes sense
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Holger
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Also e.g.
https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0359-0.5.0.html#disco vs.
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0359.html#disco
... and I'm pretty sure there's more such examples.
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