XSF Discussion - 2020-10-27


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  236. MattJ Apart from XEP-0313, does anyone know other features that the client must disco their account to discover?
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  238. Zash Carbons?
  239. Link Mauve vCard conversion?
  240. Link Mauve And bookmarks conversions, all three of them?
  241. MattJ Not carbons, according to the XEP
  242. Link Mauve Also PEP stuff most likely.
  243. MattJ It's just come to my attention that this stuff isn't covered by the caps we put in stream:features
  244. Zash True
  245. Zash Also account vs host features is weird
  246. MattJ That's the discussion I'm having with a client dev right now :/
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  255. flow put user caps string too in stream:features?
  256. Zash Can you?
  257. Zash Post-SASL?
  258. MattJ Seems like a sensible solution, obviously you need to differentiate the two somehow
  259. flow Zash, probably even in sasl's <success/>
  260. jonas’ add an @address attribute to <caps/>?
  261. jonas’ so that you can have multiple in <stream:features/>?
  262. jonas’ I hear '390 is still experimental
  263. Zash jonas’, do it
  264. Zash and then we can shove in subdomains as well :)
  265. flow +1
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  267. Zash I had some ideas around a recursive disco#items-like thing that'd include caps of its items
  268. jonas’ pep., https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/988 poke
  269. jonas’ (nothing to see here)
  270. jonas’ MattJ, related: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/924
  271. jonas’ IMO account is the logical entity
  272. jonas’ but there is some prior art in the other direction
  273. Zash Uh, fun
  274. MattJ Yes, 191 was the first I checked actually when looking for "proof" :)
  275. jonas’ fun fact: I made that PR because of a deployment where '191 is *not* available for all accounts
  276. Zash jonas’: Breaking change to a Draft XEP? Mmmmmmmm
  277. jonas’ Zash, good point :)
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  280. MattJ Holger, do you know if ejabberd advertises MAM on the server JID?
  281. MattJ I guess an XML console can tell me
  282. MattJ unless it replies differently to remote users
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  285. Holger MattJ, yes MAM is advertised both on the server and account JID.
  286. Holger I think an older revision mandated the server JID? Or some client(s) assumed it ... 😕
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  289. MattJ Seems some clients definitely assume it :(
  290. MattJ I don't know about older XEP revisions
  291. MattJ Apparently Openfire is also guilty of this
  292. MattJ I want one of these to be combined with "and if you sent a MAM query to the server JID, a local user can access all messages that the server has seen"
  293. Holger > Apparently Openfire is also guilty of this I think it's our specs fault 🙂 My impression was we were moving from server to account JID (where it makes sense), but only half-heartedly. IIRC I PRd against multiple XEP examples that got it wrong and stuff.
  294. Holger https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0313-0.1.html#sect-id124837
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  297. MattJ Makes sense
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  299. Holger Also e.g. https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0359-0.5.0.html#disco vs. https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0359.html#disco ... and I'm pretty sure there's more such examples.
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