XSF Discussion - 2020-10-28

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  369. Ge0rG MattJ: I'm looking at the 0401 split, and pondering about a more appropriate name for the invitation token generation. What about "Ad-hoc Account Invitation Generation"
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  371. MattJ +1 (I can't think of anything else)
  372. Ge0rG and "Pre-Authenticated In-Band Registration" for the fan-out new XEP
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  374. antranigv Is there any XEP for stickers? I've been thinking about it for a while.
  375. antranigv specially federated stickers.
  376. Zash BOB?
  377. Zash = https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html
  378. Zash Or what was the icon pack one?
  379. Zash antranigv, I think Movim does Stickers in some way, ask edhelas about it?
  380. antranigv Zash, thanks! will read this.
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  382. antranigv edhelas, any idea how is it implemented in Movim? I have an idea for an implementation, but don't want to reinvent the wheel
  383. MattJ antranigv, you may want to look up the notes for the last summit (probably on wiki.xmpp.org)
  384. MattJ It was one of the discussed items, and a number of points were raised
  385. antranigv MattJ, thanks! I did not know that there is an XMPP summit, otherwise I'd come running :)
  386. MattJ such as where stickers should be hosted, etc.
  387. MattJ Centralized services have it easy because they tend to be the copyright holder or otherwise have a license to distribute the stickers... in a decentralized world you don't want someone to upload a sticker pack to your server that will get you into trouble as an operator
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  390. antranigv Now I have never thought about that.
  391. Zash Not seeing anything about stickers at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_24 or https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_23
  392. Zash Oh, Minutes
  393. Zash https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_24/Minutes_Day2#15:25_-_Stickers
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  397. MattJ antranigv: ^ that's it :)
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  399. papatutuwawa I actually once thought up an XEP for stickers, implemented a proof-of-concept but never put it up for discussion
  400. papatutuwawa It even ticks off some boxes of the requested features
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  404. inky years ago i have been written an app for maemo, that was sending location via jabber to one contact, and was updating it on openstreetmap view. the protocol was "invented" by me.
  405. Ge0rG I wanted to make that in time for today's Council meeting, but didn't quite manage. https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/30 CC MattJ jonas’
  406. inky but for that work (not for location sharing) i had to add two methods
  407. inky to the pascal xmpp library.
  408. Ge0rG rendered in https://ge0rg.gitlab.io/-/xeps/-/jobs/817703895/artifacts/rendered-changes/ibr-token.html
  409. inky later i found several xeps for location sharing.
  410. inky some were giving location, some were requesting, i think
  411. inky i don't remember.
  412. inky but i saw here you were talking about standards, so i had an idea to ask
  413. inky do anyone know which xep is considered standard, used by apps.
  414. inky actually.
  415. Zash Conversations sends a geo: URI as a text message.
  416. inky i saw it.
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  418. inky i was doing something like that, but when i was requesting the location, then the other side, if allowed to send to me, was sending it back every several seconds.
  419. inky and i was seeing it almost in real time on a map.
  420. inky because the client i have been written back then was drawing it on a map.
  421. inky btw pure pascal code. (:
  422. antranigv inky, ah yes, the Nokia N900 app? that was lovely
  423. inky yay
  424. Link Mauve Is Maemo still maintained btw?
  425. inky there is another cool project: maemo-leste.
  426. inky they compiled hildon of fremantle on devuan.
  427. inky and they mantain it.
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  429. inky i took a lot of mappings from ukeyboard, and added all to default installation.
  430. inky also ported a couple of old maemo apps to it.
  431. inky it has modern ssl, modern linux underneath.
  432. inky have been ported to many devices, including pinephone, motorola droid4
  433. Zash modern ssl?!
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  435. inky i run it on droid4 and it is very fast.
  436. inky well under nokia maemo you cannot do anything because of old openssl library.
  437. Link Mauve Just a few days ago I’ve started attempting to port drivers from some old 2.6.32 branch to mainline, for my OpenMoko phone. ^^
  438. inky that is amazing!
  439. Link Mauve Not sure how far I’ll manage to go.
  440. inky because they could also support your phone then.
  441. inky if it is supported in mainline.
  442. Link Mauve I’ve never done it before, and the APIs have changed quite a lot in ten whole years. ^^'
  443. inky they only work on those devices that have drivers in mainline.
  444. Link Mauve I have no idea if something as huge as glamo will be accepted upstream tbh.
  445. inky i have an opnemoko phone, freerunner, but the screen is dead. 😕
  446. inky i hope, well.
  447. inky linux accepts commits for amiga.
  448. Link Mauve inky, note that the OpenMoko is ancient hardware, very unlikely to run if you require GLES 2.0 to be accelerated for instance.
  449. inky that's what i was saying.
  450. antranigv inky, I wonder if there's a location sharing XEP
  451. inky just recently they accepted something for amiga.
  452. inky and linus wrote something funny on the lklm regarding taht.
  453. antranigv and to be honest I want to write code for shmoos, the code is clean
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  456. antranigv inky, btw, looks like shmoos is implementing OMEMO for the next release.
  457. inky antranigv, oh cool!
  458. inky i think he abandoned the project so you can fork it.
  459. antranigv he did? they committed code like 5 days ago.
  460. inky offtop: also, i think tooter was abandoned so i use one of the forks. there are two forks, i guess and i checked both, one i liked.
  461. inky oh sure? because i did not receive shmoose updates in months.
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  479. Zash No release?
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  483. inky just checked - he has some work on github
  484. inky adding omemo as well
  485. inky but no release for a year.
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