XSF Discussion - 2020-10-28

MattJ: I'm looking at the 0401 split, and pondering about a more appropriate name for the invitation token generation. What about "Ad-hoc Account Invitation Generation"

+1 (I can't think of anything else)

and "Pre-Authenticated In-Band Registration" for the fan-out new XEP

Is there any XEP for stickers? I've been thinking about it for a while.

specially federated stickers.

BOB?

= https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html

Or what was the icon pack one?

antranigv, I think Movim does Stickers in some way, ask edhelas about it?

Zash, thanks! will read this.

edhelas, any idea how is it implemented in Movim? I have an idea for an implementation, but don't want to reinvent the wheel

antranigv, you may want to look up the notes for the last summit (probably on wiki.xmpp.org)

It was one of the discussed items, and a number of points were raised

MattJ, thanks! I did not know that there is an XMPP summit, otherwise I'd come running :)

such as where stickers should be hosted, etc.

Centralized services have it easy because they tend to be the copyright holder or otherwise have a license to distribute the stickers... in a decentralized world you don't want someone to upload a sticker pack to your server that will get you into trouble as an operator

Now I have never thought about that.

Not seeing anything about stickers at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_24 or https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_23

Oh, Minutes

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_24/Minutes_Day2#15:25_-_Stickers

antranigv: ^ that's it :)

I actually once thought up an XEP for stickers, implemented a proof-of-concept but never put it up for discussion

It even ticks off some boxes of the requested features

years ago i have been written an app for maemo, that was sending location via jabber to one contact, and was updating it on openstreetmap view. the protocol was "invented" by me.

I wanted to make that in time for today's Council meeting, but didn't quite manage. https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/30 CC MattJ jonas’

but for that work (not for location sharing) i had to add two methods

to the pascal xmpp library.

rendered in https://ge0rg.gitlab.io/-/xeps/-/jobs/817703895/artifacts/rendered-changes/ibr-token.html

later i found several xeps for location sharing.

some were giving location, some were requesting, i think

i don't remember.

but i saw here you were talking about standards, so i had an idea to ask

do anyone know which xep is considered standard, used by apps.

actually.

Conversations sends a geo: URI as a text message.

i saw it.

i was doing something like that, but when i was requesting the location, then the other side, if allowed to send to me, was sending it back every several seconds.

and i was seeing it almost in real time on a map.

because the client i have been written back then was drawing it on a map.

btw pure pascal code. (:

inky, ah yes, the Nokia N900 app? that was lovely

yay

Is Maemo still maintained btw?

there is another cool project: maemo-leste.

they compiled hildon of fremantle on devuan.

and they mantain it.

i took a lot of mappings from ukeyboard, and added all to default installation.

also ported a couple of old maemo apps to it.

it has modern ssl, modern linux underneath.

have been ported to many devices, including pinephone, motorola droid4

modern ssl?!

i run it on droid4 and it is very fast.

well under nokia maemo you cannot do anything because of old openssl library.

Just a few days ago I’ve started attempting to port drivers from some old 2.6.32 branch to mainline, for my OpenMoko phone. ^^

that is amazing!

Not sure how far I’ll manage to go.

because they could also support your phone then.

if it is supported in mainline.

I’ve never done it before, and the APIs have changed quite a lot in ten whole years. ^^'

they only work on those devices that have drivers in mainline.

I have no idea if something as huge as glamo will be accepted upstream tbh.

i have an opnemoko phone, freerunner, but the screen is dead. 😕

i hope, well.

linux accepts commits for amiga.

inky, note that the OpenMoko is ancient hardware, very unlikely to run if you require GLES 2.0 to be accelerated for instance.

that's what i was saying.

inky, I wonder if there's a location sharing XEP

just recently they accepted something for amiga.

and linus wrote something funny on the lklm regarding taht.

and to be honest I want to write code for shmoos, the code is clean

inky, btw, looks like shmoos is implementing OMEMO for the next release.

antranigv, oh cool!

i think he abandoned the project so you can fork it.

he did? they committed code like 5 days ago.

offtop: also, i think tooter was abandoned so i use one of the forks. there are two forks, i guess and i checked both, one i liked.

oh sure? because i did not receive shmoose updates in months.

No release?

just checked - he has some work on github

adding omemo as well

but no release for a year.