XSF Discussion - 2020-10-29

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08:03:27 Alex Hey, just a reminder that our board & council application period ends soon: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2020
08:03:50 jonas’ Thank you, Alex
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09:26:30 Ge0rG > If you are interested in running for Board or Council, please add a wiki page about your candidacy to one or both of the following sections by the close of business on November 8th, 2020.
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09:26:45 Ge0rG Also a small reminder that our wiki is still not mobile device friendly
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09:59:12 inky antranigv, oh did not notice your question. that's what i was saying, recently i discovered three xeps for location sharing.
09:59:25 inky did not know which one to use.
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10:04:14 edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html seems pretty fine to me no ?
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10:10:25 flow inky, I know we have some XEPs that (at the first glance) duplicate functionality, but I wasn't aware that this is true for geo location sharing. IIRC there is (only) xep80, which is in widespread use
10:10:33 flow "widespread"
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10:15:59 antranigv XEP80 seems interesting
10:16:10 antranigv Is it implemented anywhere?
10:16:14 inky nice, we have something of widespread use.
10:16:30 inky yes, very interesting question.
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10:26:26 antranigv I like that XEP80 has "room number", this would be very usefull in classes and conferences.
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10:54:17 inky let me read it again. i think, btw, none of those xeps was supporting continuous update of location, as i implemented in meridian23 on n900.
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10:55:30 inky may be "Attaching location information to presence" is that? presence is sent periodically, right? but in which periods?
10:57:08 Andrzej presence is sent by the client when it changes, but I would suggest to use XEP80 as you can publish location when you detect location change which is big enough to be published
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11:08:19 Ge0rG You could send a presence update each second. Server operators will hate you!
11:08:23 inky oh nice, thank you
11:08:54 flow inky, nowadays you don't want to shove stuff into presence, you would want to use PEP for that
11:08:58 Ge0rG In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed
11:09:28 inky omg, smart.
11:09:33 Ge0rG Yeah, PEP is much more efficient, and it's publish subscribe so only interested clients will get the updates
11:09:58 flow interested *and* authorized clients, hopefully
11:10:07 Ge0rG Presence goes to all your contacts and rooms
11:10:11 flow cause I'm interested in all your locations!
11:10:29 Ge0rG yeah, you can define a white list
11:10:45 mdosch > In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed So updating all x meters?
11:11:22 mdosch Would be smart I guess.
11:11:26 inky ok i need to rethink it all.
11:11:45 Ge0rG mdosch: it's more complicated than that
11:12:17 mdosch For the radio probably but for inkys thing that would be good enough I guess.
11:12:40 inky i'll talk here about it when i start to work on the app again. this is something i am interested in. currently because i don't use n900 i share location via selfhosted hauk.
11:13:02 inky but it takes a lot of resources, needs memcached, and uses php, and i don't like those on my server.
11:14:56 mdosch inky: I don't know your previous thing but I would like to choose 'Send my location to this contact for x min/h/d' so you don't accidantely send your location forever.
11:16:04 inky yes, i was doing something like that, the timeout is a good idea. before i was just doing send, stop sending.
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14:30:23 ralphm bangs gavel
14:30:26 ralphm 0. Welcome
14:30:32 ralphm Hi! Who do we have?
14:30:36 Seve 👋
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14:30:55 Seve MattJ Guus ?
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14:32:41 Seve I believed they would be around 😃
14:34:02 Seve whispers: prove me right?
14:35:10 ralphm If it remains you and me, I just want to remind people to sign up for Board and Council.
14:35:41 Seve Yes!
14:35:50 ralphm unbangs gavel
14:35:52 ralphm +1W
14:36:00 Seve All right! 🙂
14:36:09 Seve Good talk! 😃
14:36:16 ralphm :-D
14:36:27 Zash Quick and efficient. I approve.
14:36:59 ralphm Zash: heh
14:37:37 MattJ Hey
14:37:58 MattJ I approve of the efficiency
14:38:18 MattJ I should probably write my board application and/or find someone else for the job
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14:42:03 Seve +1!
14:43:48 Guus Arg
14:43:56 Guus Lost track of time, apologies
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16:52:00 pep. Missed the meeting sorry
16:53:34 antranigv There was a meeting?
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16:53:52 antranigv Like a conf call?
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16:54:08 Zash We don't do that here.
16:54:10 MattJ No, we typically do text chat here
16:54:34 antranigv We should do that *hides*
16:54:54 MattJ It has been done, or did Council actually fail at scheduling their call in the end? :)
16:55:27 Zash Not that I know of
16:55:55 Ge0rG Yes, we failed.
16:55:55 Zash I still don't think my reply to that thread go through
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