XSF Discussion - 2020-10-29


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  133. Alex Hey, just a reminder that our board & council application period ends soon: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2020
  134. jonas’ Thank you, Alex
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  158. Ge0rG > If you are interested in running for Board or Council, please add a wiki page about your candidacy to one or both of the following sections by the close of business on November 8th, 2020.
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  160. Ge0rG Also a small reminder that our wiki is still not mobile device friendly
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  170. inky antranigv, oh did not notice your question. that's what i was saying, recently i discovered three xeps for location sharing.
  171. inky did not know which one to use.
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  176. edhelas https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html seems pretty fine to me no ?
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  180. flow inky, I know we have some XEPs that (at the first glance) duplicate functionality, but I wasn't aware that this is true for geo location sharing. IIRC there is (only) xep80, which is in widespread use
  181. flow "widespread"
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  184. antranigv XEP80 seems interesting
  185. antranigv Is it implemented anywhere?
  186. inky nice, we have something of widespread use.
  187. inky yes, very interesting question.
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  197. antranigv I like that XEP80 has "room number", this would be very usefull in classes and conferences.
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  210. inky let me read it again. i think, btw, none of those xeps was supporting continuous update of location, as i implemented in meridian23 on n900.
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  213. inky may be "Attaching location information to presence" is that? presence is sent periodically, right? but in which periods?
  214. Andrzej presence is sent by the client when it changes, but I would suggest to use XEP80 as you can publish location when you detect location change which is big enough to be published
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  220. Ge0rG You could send a presence update each second. Server operators will hate you!
  221. inky oh nice, thank you
  222. flow inky, nowadays you don't want to shove stuff into presence, you would want to use PEP for that
  223. Ge0rG In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed
  224. inky omg, smart.
  225. Ge0rG Yeah, PEP is much more efficient, and it's publish subscribe so only interested clients will get the updates
  226. flow interested *and* authorized clients, hopefully
  227. Ge0rG Presence goes to all your contacts and rooms
  228. flow cause I'm interested in all your locations!
  229. Ge0rG yeah, you can define a white list
  230. mdosch > In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed So updating all x meters?
  231. mdosch Would be smart I guess.
  232. inky ok i need to rethink it all.
  233. Ge0rG mdosch: it's more complicated than that
  234. mdosch For the radio probably but for inkys thing that would be good enough I guess.
  235. inky i'll talk here about it when i start to work on the app again. this is something i am interested in. currently because i don't use n900 i share location via selfhosted hauk.
  236. inky but it takes a lot of resources, needs memcached, and uses php, and i don't like those on my server.
  237. mdosch inky: I don't know your previous thing but I would like to choose 'Send my location to this contact for x min/h/d' so you don't accidantely send your location forever.
  238. inky yes, i was doing something like that, the timeout is a good idea. before i was just doing send, stop sending.
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  310. ralphm bangs gavel
  311. ralphm 0. Welcome
  312. ralphm Hi! Who do we have?
  313. Seve 👋
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  315. Seve MattJ Guus ?
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  318. Seve I believed they would be around 😃
  319. Seve whispers: prove me right?
  320. ralphm If it remains you and me, I just want to remind people to sign up for Board and Council.
  321. Seve Yes!
  322. ralphm unbangs gavel
  323. ralphm +1W
  324. Seve All right! 🙂
  325. Seve Good talk! 😃
  326. ralphm :-D
  327. Zash Quick and efficient. I approve.
  328. ralphm Zash: heh
  329. MattJ Hey
  330. MattJ I approve of the efficiency
  331. MattJ I should probably write my board application and/or find someone else for the job
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  333. Seve +1!
  334. Guus Arg
  335. Guus Lost track of time, apologies
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  368. pep. Missed the meeting sorry
  369. antranigv There was a meeting?
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  371. antranigv Like a conf call?
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  373. Zash We don't do that here.
  374. MattJ No, we typically do text chat here
  375. antranigv We should do that *hides*
  376. MattJ It has been done, or did Council actually fail at scheduling their call in the end? :)
  377. Zash Not that I know of
  378. Ge0rG Yes, we failed.
  379. Zash I still don't think my reply to that thread go through
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