XSF Discussion - 2020-10-29

Hey, just a reminder that our board & council application period ends soon: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2020

Thank you, Alex

> If you are interested in running for Board or Council, please add a wiki page about your candidacy to one or both of the following sections by the close of business on November 8th, 2020.

Also a small reminder that our wiki is still not mobile device friendly

antranigv, oh did not notice your question. that's what i was saying, recently i discovered three xeps for location sharing.

did not know which one to use.

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0080.html seems pretty fine to me no ?

inky, I know we have some XEPs that (at the first glance) duplicate functionality, but I wasn't aware that this is true for geo location sharing. IIRC there is (only) xep80, which is in widespread use

"widespread"

XEP80 seems interesting

Is it implemented anywhere?

nice, we have something of widespread use.

yes, very interesting question.

I like that XEP80 has "room number", this would be very usefull in classes and conferences.

let me read it again. i think, btw, none of those xeps was supporting continuous update of location, as i implemented in meridian23 on n900.

may be "Attaching location information to presence" is that? presence is sent periodically, right? but in which periods?

presence is sent by the client when it changes, but I would suggest to use XEP80 as you can publish location when you detect location change which is big enough to be published

You could send a presence update each second. Server operators will hate you!

oh nice, thank you

inky, nowadays you don't want to shove stuff into presence, you would want to use PEP for that

In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed

omg, smart.

Yeah, PEP is much more efficient, and it's publish subscribe so only interested clients will get the updates

interested *and* authorized clients, hopefully

Presence goes to all your contacts and rooms

cause I'm interested in all your locations!

yeah, you can define a white list

> In amateur radio there is SmartBeaconing™ which adapts the reporting rate to your movement speed So updating all x meters?

Would be smart I guess.

ok i need to rethink it all.

mdosch: it's more complicated than that

For the radio probably but for inkys thing that would be good enough I guess.

i'll talk here about it when i start to work on the app again. this is something i am interested in. currently because i don't use n900 i share location via selfhosted hauk.

but it takes a lot of resources, needs memcached, and uses php, and i don't like those on my server.

inky: I don't know your previous thing but I would like to choose 'Send my location to this contact for x min/h/d' so you don't accidantely send your location forever.

yes, i was doing something like that, the timeout is a good idea. before i was just doing send, stop sending.

0. Welcome

Hi! Who do we have?

👋

MattJ Guus ?

I believed they would be around 😃

If it remains you and me, I just want to remind people to sign up for Board and Council.

Yes!

+1W

All right! 🙂

Good talk! 😃

:-D

Quick and efficient. I approve.

Zash: heh

Hey

I approve of the efficiency

I should probably write my board application and/or find someone else for the job

+1!

Arg

Lost track of time, apologies

Missed the meeting sorry

There was a meeting?

Like a conf call?

We don't do that here.

No, we typically do text chat here

We should do that *hides*

It has been done, or did Council actually fail at scheduling their call in the end? :)

Not that I know of

Yes, we failed.

I still don't think my reply to that thread go through