XSF Discussion - 2020-11-11

A question for XEP-0384 ( OMEMO ) - Section: 5.3.1 Device list NOTE: as per XEP-0060 §12.20, it is RECOMMENDED for the publisher to specify an ItemID of "current" to ensure that the publication of a new item will overwrite the existing item. Is it a RECOMMENDED or should it be a MUST?

DebXWoody, well the protocol won't break if you don't follow this, only the pubsub node will accumulate more (unnecessary) items over time. IMHO that does not justify a MUST, not even a SHOULD

hence RECOMMENDED seems to be sensible in this case

flow, "the protocol won't break" I agree. But OMEMO won't work well, I guess. On functional point of view there should be just *one* device list per account. Am I right? The protocol should define the technical way to find a solution of the functional requirement. If the should be *exactly one* device list, the protocol should say this also. ( This is what I think) If it is recommended, how should I manage the different devicelists? Just merge all?

The server might have default of 1 max items.

DebXWoody, there is only one valid device list: the one in the latest item of the pubsub node

possible that the XEP should spell that out explicitly. it is probably not done since it is a reoccuring design pattern in XMPP

Thx, I need to investigate with the user and try to fix the implementation.

flow, FWIW, RECOMMENDED == SHOULD

right, i always get that wrong

So it's probably fine.

Ge0rG, re ibr-token, do you happen to know if there's like research or something in that direction saying that captchas are terrible?

Zash: I'm sure there is. I only have first-party anecdata.

Non-blocking but I think it'd be nice to have that claim backed up by something.

Hm, is there a way to express "here's an endpoint with SASL ANONYMOUS you can connect to" with XMPP URIs?

Zash: I don't think so, but you might use something like xmpp://domain

technically, that'd mean connect by xmpp with no or default username / password

is that true?

Yes

Same way http://example means to connect there with http

Lance has solved a lot of problems today (all tickets have been closed), but how to test it to confirm? - https://github.com/legastero/stanza/

Anyone have anything to say about the compliance suite?

Can it be purple? ✏

Guus, <editor-hat>no, we don’t do extra stylesheets for XEPs</editor-hat>

Zash: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0443.html#changes-2020

TOO LATE, already voted

I'm still in the conference call

Dang, forgot to /activity in_a_meeting

😂

And now it's tooooooo late

Btw, is there a channel for client and server devs?

jdev on this server

xmpp:jdev@muc.xmpp.org?join

jonas’: thanks!