XSF Discussion - 2020-11-11


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  81. DebXWoody A question for XEP-0384 ( OMEMO ) - Section: 5.3.1 Device list NOTE: as per XEP-0060 §12.20, it is RECOMMENDED for the publisher to specify an ItemID of "current" to ensure that the publication of a new item will overwrite the existing item. Is it a RECOMMENDED or should it be a MUST?
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  86. flow DebXWoody, well the protocol won't break if you don't follow this, only the pubsub node will accumulate more (unnecessary) items over time. IMHO that does not justify a MUST, not even a SHOULD
  87. flow hence RECOMMENDED seems to be sensible in this case
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  89. DebXWoody flow, "the protocol won't break" I agree. But OMEMO won't work well, I guess. On functional point of view there should be just *one* device list per account. Am I right? The protocol should define the technical way to find a solution of the functional requirement. If the should be *exactly one* device list, the protocol should say this also. ( This is what I think) If it is recommended, how should I manage the different devicelists? Just merge all?
  90. Zash The server might have default of 1 max items.
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  92. flow DebXWoody, there is only one valid device list: the one in the latest item of the pubsub node
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  94. flow possible that the XEP should spell that out explicitly. it is probably not done since it is a reoccuring design pattern in XMPP
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  97. DebXWoody Thx, I need to investigate with the user and try to fix the implementation.
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  108. jonas’ flow, FWIW, RECOMMENDED == SHOULD
  109. flow right, i always get that wrong
  110. Zash So it's probably fine.
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  268. Zash Ge0rG, re ibr-token, do you happen to know if there's like research or something in that direction saying that captchas are terrible?
  269. Ge0rG Zash: I'm sure there is. I only have first-party anecdata.
  270. Zash Non-blocking but I think it'd be nice to have that claim backed up by something.
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  272. Zash Hm, is there a way to express "here's an endpoint with SASL ANONYMOUS you can connect to" with XMPP URIs?
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  274. Ge0rG Zash: I don't think so, but you might use something like xmpp://domain
  275. Ge0rG technically, that'd mean connect by xmpp with no or default username / password
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  279. jonas’ is that true?
  280. Zash Yes
  281. Zash Same way http://example means to connect there with http
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  283. Neustradamus Lance has solved a lot of problems today (all tickets have been closed), but how to test it to confirm? - https://github.com/legastero/stanza/
  284. Zash Anyone have anything to say about the compliance suite?
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  286. Guus Can it be purple/
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  288. Guus Can it be purple?
  289. jonas’ Guus, <editor-hat>no, we don’t do extra stylesheets for XEPs</editor-hat>
  290. Zash does a diff against the last CS
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  292. Ge0rG Zash: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0443.html#changes-2020
  293. Zash TOO LATE, already voted
  294. Ge0rG I'm still in the conference call
  295. Zash Dang, forgot to /activity in_a_meeting
  296. Seve 😂
  297. Zash And now it's tooooooo late
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  302. marc Btw, is there a channel for client and server devs?
  303. MattJ jdev on this server
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  307. jonas’ xmpp:jdev@muc.xmpp.org?join
  308. marc jonas’: thanks!
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