XSF Discussion - 2020-11-14

  1. moparisthebest

    emus: yes I think your statement is correct, but if they didn't have to upgrade due to LE certs in January they'd have to for many other certs in September

  2. Ge0rG

    ralphm: they won't turn off GSM because it provides basic coverage to M2M devices like vending machines.

  3. moparisthebest

    https://www.androidauthority.com/volte-att-t-mobile-1148654/ + https://lists.osuosl.org/pipermail/replicant/2020-November/003151.html is what I was referring to

  4. ralphm

    Ge0rG: T-Mobile in The Netherlands will turn off 2G for regular use on 1 June 2021, and for M2M on 1 June 2023.

  5. ralphm

    But KPN will keep it going until 2025 for smart power meters

  6. Ge0rG

    Wow, the Netherlands are a progressive country regarding their infrastructure. In Germany we are killing 3G in favor of 4G but keep GSM running

  7. Ge0rG

    But we also have a minimum guaranteed internet access for everybody of... modem line.

  8. Link Mauve

    I got my very first 4G device on Monday. :p

  9. Link Mauve

    It’d be inconvenient to go to a neighbour country and being unable to even place a call. :/

  10. Ge0rG

    Well, in Germany you don't need to go to a neighbor country to not be able to place a call, quite the opposite.

  11. Daniel

    > Should be possible to locate one or two .. :) Probably...

  12. mdosch

    Yaxim.im should support it mdosch.de, where I once gave you an account, too. 😃

  13. Daniel

    Sorry. I was just cleverly disguising a test message

  14. Daniel

    Because this channel also runs prosody

  15. mdosch


  16. mdosch


  17. jonas’

    Quick confirmation: when I use XEP-0059 RSM and specify a <max/> larger than what the server supports and I do not specify either <after/> or <before/>, I should receive the *first* N elements, where N is the server-side max? (and the <set/> in the response should have <max/> set to the server-side max)

  18. ralphm

    Ge0rG: sure, 3G is being killed, too, and faster, to free up spectrum for 4/5G

  19. Arne

    I wonder why GSM is still used. I thought there where enough security problems..

  20. Zash

    jonas’, that's what I would expect, getting the first set of items.

  21. jonas’

    Zash, nice, jabber.ietf.org does the opposite

  22. Zash

    Yup, I too noticed this, but haven't been in a bug reporting mood at the same time.

  23. Seve

    >Jabber is sometimes referred to by the name "XMPP". LOL

  24. edhelas

    Jabber is the new XMPP

  25. mdosch

    I don't like that "Jabber" is still used everywhere. It makes it hard to sell it to people who had to use Cisco Jabber before as they say "Ewwww, cisco jabber, stay away with that".

  26. mdosch

    Would be nice if we had a catchy name that could be spelled rather than XMPP but Jabber is burnt.

  27. moparisthebest

    "Snikket" ?

  28. Zash


  29. Zash

    ... "Zimpy" ‽

  30. moparisthebest

    "The Matrix Revolutions"

  31. Zash

    "Meta-Chat" since it's only used to discuss itself :P

  32. Neustradamus

    Jabber is the old name of XMPP.

  33. mdosch

    And of a Cisco product.

  34. Neustradamus

    mdosch: Yes of course