XSF Discussion - 2020-11-14

emus: yes I think your statement is correct, but if they didn't have to upgrade due to LE certs in January they'd have to for many other certs in September

ralphm: they won't turn off GSM because it provides basic coverage to M2M devices like vending machines.

https://www.androidauthority.com/volte-att-t-mobile-1148654/ + https://lists.osuosl.org/pipermail/replicant/2020-November/003151.html is what I was referring to

Ge0rG: T-Mobile in The Netherlands will turn off 2G for regular use on 1 June 2021, and for M2M on 1 June 2023.

But KPN will keep it going until 2025 for smart power meters

Wow, the Netherlands are a progressive country regarding their infrastructure. In Germany we are killing 3G in favor of 4G but keep GSM running

But we also have a minimum guaranteed internet access for everybody of... modem line.

I got my very first 4G device on Monday. :p

It’d be inconvenient to go to a neighbour country and being unable to even place a call. :/

Well, in Germany you don't need to go to a neighbor country to not be able to place a call, quite the opposite.

> Should be possible to locate one or two .. :) Probably...

Yaxim.im should support it mdosch.de, where I once gave you an account, too. 😃

Sorry. I was just cleverly disguising a test message

Because this channel also runs prosody

:) ✏

Quick confirmation: when I use XEP-0059 RSM and specify a <max/> larger than what the server supports and I do not specify either <after/> or <before/>, I should receive the *first* N elements, where N is the server-side max? (and the <set/> in the response should have <max/> set to the server-side max)

Ge0rG: sure, 3G is being killed, too, and faster, to free up spectrum for 4/5G

I wonder why GSM is still used. I thought there where enough security problems..

jonas’, that's what I would expect, getting the first set of items.

Zash, nice, jabber.ietf.org does the opposite

Yup, I too noticed this, but haven't been in a bug reporting mood at the same time.

>Jabber is sometimes referred to by the name "XMPP". LOL

Jabber is the new XMPP

I don't like that "Jabber" is still used everywhere. It makes it hard to sell it to people who had to use Cisco Jabber before as they say "Ewwww, cisco jabber, stay away with that".

Would be nice if we had a catchy name that could be spelled rather than XMPP but Jabber is burnt.

"Snikket" ?

"Chat"

... "Zimpy" ‽

"The Matrix Revolutions"

"Meta-Chat" since it's only used to discuss itself :P

Jabber is the old name of XMPP.

And of a Cisco product.

mdosch: Yes of course