XSF Discussion - 2020-12-03


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  272. dwd .
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  276. Zash ,
  277. dwd ,,
  278. Link Mauve ,,,
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  283. Guus https://igniterealtime.org:443/httpfileupload/HqD1nr19dNvqZnLhTXQ7n8X3tSs/image.png
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  290. edhelas nice circle
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  342. Zash ˙
  343. MattJ •
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  368. Zash <circle xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" color="black" r="yuge"/>
  369. Zash pep., how goes it with https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/988 ?
  370. Zash ... not present? oh well
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  410. Zash If you have 'max' number of bookmarks already and add a new one, what do you want to happen?
  411. Zash As in XEP-0402 and the pubsub 'max' thing
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  413. Link Mauve Increasing the max value automatically! \o/
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  416. Zash Wrong answer
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  425. flow Zash, error response to the add request?
  426. Zash Not what you get tho
  427. flow new pubsub option: error-on-max-items-add ?
  428. flow (working title)
  429. Zash overflow=drop|reject or something
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  431. flow do you ever want overflow=drop?
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  433. Zash That's the default and only option atm
  434. flow says who?
  435. flow (serious question)
  436. Zash Says my code
  437. Zash Says OUR code
  438. flow I am not in the spec, but I'd expect that the oldest item gets deleted. otoh I remember that the spec may be vague regarding this
  439. flow as in "implementation defined"
  440. Zash > A node MAY be configured to persist only a limited number of items.
  441. Zash Whole pile of MAY if I search for "persist*"
  442. lovetox thats what i remember too
  443. lovetox oldest item is deleted
  444. flow Zash, so you return a success IQ to the item-add IQ request but do not actually add the item?
  445. Zash you mean publish
  446. flow that
  447. Zash We save stuff what amounts to an LRU cache
  448. Zash (we=Prosody)
  449. flow so there is a time where the last added item could actually be observed by others?
  450. flow so there is a time where the last published item could actually be observed by others?
  451. flow in any case, I think this calls for a new optional reject-on-overflow pubusb node configuration option
  452. Zash If you reach max_items setting, the oldest item gets deleted
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  455. Ge0rG Can't we just have infinite storage?
  456. Zash No
  457. Ge0rG What if we use a cloud based json key value store?
  458. Zash I'll forward the the invoices to you
  459. Ge0rG Just implement Blockchain based micro payments
  460. Zash I'll forward you the torrent of melted glacier ice.
  461. Ge0rG I've moved from 40m to 400m above sea level
  462. Ge0rG Let it come!
  463. Zash Let them eat glacial rebound!
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  499. Zash Is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-miller-jabber-00 the first IETF thing?
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  506. SamWhited good history-ing
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  508. Zash That draft in Feb IETF BOF in July: https://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/ietf/02jul/jabber.txt Formal WG established in October according to https://xmpp.org/about/history.html
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  512. Zash But when, where was "XMPP" coined?
  513. Zash Must have been before the BOF, probably after that draft...
  514. Zash Records are thin from that time
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