I like how Google keeps insisting that I'm looking for a Vietnamese fried octopus dish, whenever I search for MUC MAM.
Guus
the bubble is failing.
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Guus
Clients determine that a particular inbound message is a MUC PM by looking at it's type, right? Regular MUC messages have type='groupchat', while PMs have not?
Zash
PMs look like regular chat messages, which makes everything complicated if you don't know they come from a MUC
Zash
unless the MUC stamps them with that <{muc}x/> tag
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Ge0rG
Guus: yes, and maybe one day every implementation will add that x tag
In XEP-0045, this is specified:
> If the room is non-anonymous, the service MAY include an Extended Stanza Addressing (XEP-0033) [16] element that notes the original full JID of the sender by means of the "ofrom" address type:
This is limited to messages retrieved from history, though. MUC MAM doesn't reference this at all, but I'm thinking it'd be equally desirable there? Is there harm in slapping it onto live messages (for non-anon rooms), even if clients get to know about real JIDs through presence information?
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Zash
It's redundant since this JIDs are available in presence/{muc#user}x/item/@jid✎
Zash
It's redundant since JIDs are available in presence/{muc#user}x/item/@jid in non-anon rooms ✏
Zash
In semi-anon rooms you'd rather use occupant-id
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Guus
I can see the redundancy - but I'm wondering if it'd hurt (apart from the obvious added weight to the stanzas).
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Ge0rG
I wouldn't touch 0033 with a pole, it's based on RFC 822
Ge0rG
Also we had a nice security issue in 0313 where the server wasn't required to remove impersonation attacks from stored stanza
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ralphm
Having a so-called shut-it-down-day, won't make it to the board meeting today.
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dwd
ralphm, Is there an Agenda somewhere?
ralphm
Other than Trello, no
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arc
Could be a short meeting then
dwd
arc, You want to chair?
arc
Sure why not. Do we even have quorum?
dwd
Only if we have MattJ or Seve.
arc
Seve, MattJ?
MattJ
Hey
arc
Hey MattJ if I'm not mistaken it's your turn to do minutes
MattJ
Ok
dwd
MattJ, On the plus side, should be an easy one.
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MattJ
:)
arcbangs gavel
arc
Roll call
dwd
Me!
arc
Seve are you present?
arc
For record, Ralph said he couldn't be here today
Seve
I am
arc
And MattJ is here doing minutes?
MattJ
Yep
arc
Ok. Since there are no tabled items from last week I think there's only one agenda item, but open call for others
arc
Fossdem and the devroom
dwd
arc, ralphm usually leads on FOSDEM etc, so that might be a problem discussing it.
Seve
Thought we left that for SCAM?
Seve
At least I would say last Board decided to leave this topic to SCAM
dwd
Yes, but IIRC, ralphm is our FOSDEM contact.
arc
I'm happy to leave it for SCAM. As much as I hate that acronym
MattJ
:)
arc
I still think we should have a vote for this year to delegate that to SCAM, get the ball rolling
arc
But are there any other topics to discuss this week?
dwd
Not that I know of.
dwd
(I mean, I do have things I'd like us to discuss, but I want to write a brief on them first)
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arc
Ok then let's do this real fast
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arc
1. Fosdem and the devroom
arc
I motion to officially delicate this to SCAM
MattJ
Seconded, +1
dwd
+1
dwd
Though I think you mean "delegate".
arc
+1 deligate yes
Seve
+1
arc
Passes.
arc
With no other business, +1 week
arc
Dwd do you want to put your agenda item in for next week?
dwd
arc, No, I need to write the brief first. So once I've written that we'll worry about an agenda item for it.
arc
Ok
arcbangs gavel
arc
Done in 15
MattJ
Thanks o/
Seve
Have a good weekend everyone 🙂
dwd
Thanks, arc.
arc
I'm guessing we'll likely skip the week after next for the holidays
arc
Unless we want to have it on Christmas morning 😋
arc
And sorry for typos my phone's autocorrect gets in the way sometimes, especially since I added Norwegian to the language dictionary