XSF Discussion - 2021-01-08


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  266. marc

    The peertube guys will soon™ implement a chat system for their live streaming feature, xmpp and matrix were already mentioned https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/151

  267. marc

    Maybe someone™ wants to advertise xmpp

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  302. MattJ

    marc: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/3098#issuecomment-756668474 - thanks for the pointer

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  305. MattJ

    Not committing to implementing it myself (unless it will only take a few hours), but I'm sure we can find someone who can

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  323. marc

    MattJ: since matrix uses json which is a good buzzword for web devs, it will be hard to convince them I guess

  324. marc

    But yeah, maybe they have funding money to lay for an xmpp based chat

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  361. marc

    But yeah, maybe they have funding money to pay for an xmpp based chat

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  539. dwd

    Good evening.

  540. arc

    ralphm: you here?

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  542. ralphm

    arc: not sure :-D

  543. ralphm

    0. Welcome + Agenda

  544. ralphm

    A warm welcome in 2021. We've missed a few meetings due to the holidays. New year, new chances.

  545. ralphm

    Who do we have?

  546. arc

    Here

  547. dwd

    Here!

  548. MattJ

    o/

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  550. ralphm

    Seve sent regrets, so we can start

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  552. ralphm

    Any agenda items we should add?

  553. dwd

    Council was asking what's happening with the Summit.

  554. ralphm

    dwd: ok

  555. arc

    We officially sent that to SCAM last meeting

  556. ralphm

    Right, but we can still follow-up maybe.

  557. dwd

    Yes, have we heard back?

  558. ralphm

    If nothing else.

  559. ralphm

    1. Minute taker. I think MattJ was last, so that's me then.

  560. ralphm

    2. XMPP Summit 2021

  561. ralphm

    To be honest, I haven't followed along.

  562. MattJ

    Me neither

  563. dwd

    It might be useful to have SCAM give us an update each week if possible.

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  565. MattJ

    Agreed

  566. dwd

    Someone (I forget who) at the Council meeting noted that there wasn't any particular reason to have the Summit happen in line with the FOSDEM timing, mind, and I'm fine with that if that's the plan.

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  569. ralphm

    Right. For me the primary value for the Summit is to bring people (physically) together. The second is for the concentrated high(er) bandwidth discussions.

  570. dwd

    Who is the liaision between Board and SCAM?

  571. ralphm

    Probably me.

  572. ralphm

    I'll follow up on this.

  573. arc

    There won't be a physical meeting this year. It is just not possible given the slow vaccine rollout. Maybe next year.

  574. dwd

    Autumn/Fall, perhaps. Depends on vaccine rollout and new mutations.

  575. ralphm

    Right, I don't expect one, but am willing to check back in a few months. We used to do two summits a year, and who knows where we are in the fall.

  576. dwd

    But there's nothing stopping us from replacing a physical summit with one - or more - online events.

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  578. ralphm

    Indeed. I'll ask if SCAM has/had anything in mind.

  579. ralphm

    Which reminds me of:

  580. ralphm

    2. GSOC

  581. ralphm

    https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline

  582. arc

    GSoC is reduced in half this year

  583. ralphm

    If we want to participate, we need to start.

  584. ralphm

    arc: what does that mean?

  585. arc

    Students will be paid half as much as last year, and Google is expecting us to adjust our expectations accordingly

  586. dwd

    Half the time as well?

  587. ralphm

    ah, yes

  588. arc

    So if students were expected to put 30-40 hours last year, it's 15-20 this year, yes.

  589. dwd

    OK.

  590. dwd

    We could, of course, top that up with our own funds.

  591. ralphm

    Anyway, seems we have a bit of time. Let's think about if we want to participate and discuss next week how to proceed?

  592. arc

    That just has a huge impact on the cost:benefit ratio. Mentors put in the same about of time as previous years but students contribute half an much? Many orgs are discussing whether they still want to participate

  593. ralphm

    Indeed. Point taken.

  594. dwd

    arc, That's why I am wondering about whether we replace the missing funds.

  595. ralphm

    ++

  596. dwd

    arc, I assume mentor/org funding from Google also halves?

  597. arc

    Not as I recall.

  598. ralphm

    400 USD per accepted student, says FAQ

  599. dwd

    Oh, OK. So how much is the student shortfall we'd have to make up, anyone know?

  600. arc

    That depends on which country they're from

  601. arc

    If they are living in the United States, $3000 IIRC

  602. arc

    A few years ago they changed the program to paying students based on country cost of living index, instead of one flat amount.

  603. ralphm

    I need to give this a bit more thought

  604. dwd

    Right, makes sense.

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  606. arc

    I would recommend that we look at Outreachy

  607. dwd

    Oh, interesting. Yes, looks like something to look into.

  608. dwd

    Can we agree we all look into these options - Outreachy, and making up the shortfall on GSoC - and discuss next week?

  609. arc

    Sounds good

  610. dwd

    (And maybe exchange thoguhts on the mailing list between now and then)

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  613. arc

    I would be happy to outreach to outreachy to discuss how we can join that

  614. ralphm

    Yep

  615. ralphm

    Thanks arc

  616. ralphm

    3. AOB

  617. ralphm

    ?

  618. dwd

    Just a note that we have major incidents and "critcon4" and things being declared here, so I may get very busy with work. But hopefully that won't affect Board much.

  619. ralphm

    Ok

  620. ralphm

    4. Date of Next

  621. ralphm

    +1W

  622. ralphm

    5. Close

  623. ralphm

    Thanks all!

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  625. arc

    24 minutes!

  626. ralphm

    Good?

  627. arc

    Good

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  715. emus

    Would be great if we could try to compensate GSoC, at least partly.

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  745. flow

    emus, "compensate GSoC"?

  746. mdosch

    Top up with own money as mentioned earlier I guess.

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  748. flow

    ahh, I see

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  822. emus

    flow: Yes, was Martin said

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