XSF Discussion - 2021-01-08

The peertube guys will soon™ implement a chat system for their live streaming feature, xmpp and matrix were already mentioned https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/151

Maybe someone™ wants to advertise xmpp

marc: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/3098#issuecomment-756668474 - thanks for the pointer

Not committing to implementing it myself (unless it will only take a few hours), but I'm sure we can find someone who can

MattJ: since matrix uses json which is a good buzzword for web devs, it will be hard to convince them I guess

But yeah, maybe they have funding money to pay for an xmpp based chat ✏

Good evening.

ralphm: you here?

arc: not sure :-D

0. Welcome + Agenda

A warm welcome in 2021. We've missed a few meetings due to the holidays. New year, new chances.

Who do we have?

Here

Here!

o/

Seve sent regrets, so we can start

Any agenda items we should add?

Council was asking what's happening with the Summit.

dwd: ok

We officially sent that to SCAM last meeting

Right, but we can still follow-up maybe.

Yes, have we heard back?

If nothing else.

1. Minute taker. I think MattJ was last, so that's me then.

2. XMPP Summit 2021

To be honest, I haven't followed along.

Me neither

It might be useful to have SCAM give us an update each week if possible.

Agreed

Someone (I forget who) at the Council meeting noted that there wasn't any particular reason to have the Summit happen in line with the FOSDEM timing, mind, and I'm fine with that if that's the plan.

Right. For me the primary value for the Summit is to bring people (physically) together. The second is for the concentrated high(er) bandwidth discussions.

Who is the liaision between Board and SCAM?

Probably me.

I'll follow up on this.

There won't be a physical meeting this year. It is just not possible given the slow vaccine rollout. Maybe next year.

Autumn/Fall, perhaps. Depends on vaccine rollout and new mutations.

Right, I don't expect one, but am willing to check back in a few months. We used to do two summits a year, and who knows where we are in the fall.

But there's nothing stopping us from replacing a physical summit with one - or more - online events.

Indeed. I'll ask if SCAM has/had anything in mind.

Which reminds me of:

2. GSOC

https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline

GSoC is reduced in half this year

If we want to participate, we need to start.

arc: what does that mean?

Students will be paid half as much as last year, and Google is expecting us to adjust our expectations accordingly

Half the time as well?

ah, yes

So if students were expected to put 30-40 hours last year, it's 15-20 this year, yes.

OK.

We could, of course, top that up with our own funds.

Anyway, seems we have a bit of time. Let's think about if we want to participate and discuss next week how to proceed?

That just has a huge impact on the cost:benefit ratio. Mentors put in the same about of time as previous years but students contribute half an much? Many orgs are discussing whether they still want to participate

Indeed. Point taken.

arc, That's why I am wondering about whether we replace the missing funds.

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arc, I assume mentor/org funding from Google also halves?

Not as I recall.

400 USD per accepted student, says FAQ

Oh, OK. So how much is the student shortfall we'd have to make up, anyone know?

That depends on which country they're from

If they are living in the United States, $3000 IIRC

A few years ago they changed the program to paying students based on country cost of living index, instead of one flat amount.

I need to give this a bit more thought

Right, makes sense.

I would recommend that we look at Outreachy

Oh, interesting. Yes, looks like something to look into.

Can we agree we all look into these options - Outreachy, and making up the shortfall on GSoC - and discuss next week?

Sounds good

(And maybe exchange thoguhts on the mailing list between now and then)

I would be happy to outreach to outreachy to discuss how we can join that

Yep

Thanks arc

3. AOB

?

Just a note that we have major incidents and "critcon4" and things being declared here, so I may get very busy with work. But hopefully that won't affect Board much.

Ok

4. Date of Next

+1W

5. Close

Thanks all!

24 minutes!

Good?

Good

Would be great if we could try to compensate GSoC, at least partly.

emus, "compensate GSoC"?

Top up with own money as mentioned earlier I guess.

ahh, I see

flow: Yes, was Martin said