marcThe peertube guys will soon™ implement a chat system for their live streaming feature, xmpp and matrix were already mentioned https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/151
marcMaybe someone™ wants to advertise xmpp
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MattJmarc: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/3098#issuecomment-756668474 - thanks for the pointer
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MattJNot committing to implementing it myself (unless it will only take a few hours), but I'm sure we can find someone who can
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marcMattJ: since matrix uses json which is a good buzzword for web devs, it will be hard to convince them I guess
marcBut yeah, maybe they have funding money to lay for an xmpp based chat
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marcBut yeah, maybe they have funding money to pay for an xmpp based chat
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dwdGood evening.
arcralphm: you here?
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ralphmarc: not sure :-D
ralphm0. Welcome + Agenda
ralphmA warm welcome in 2021. We've missed a few meetings due to the holidays. New year, new chances.
ralphmWho do we have?
arcHere
dwdHere!
MattJo/
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ralphmSeve sent regrets, so we can start
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ralphmAny agenda items we should add?
dwdCouncil was asking what's happening with the Summit.
ralphmdwd: ok
arcWe officially sent that to SCAM last meeting
ralphmRight, but we can still follow-up maybe.
dwdYes, have we heard back?
ralphmIf nothing else.
ralphm1. Minute taker. I think MattJ was last, so that's me then.
ralphm2. XMPP Summit 2021
ralphmTo be honest, I haven't followed along.
MattJMe neither
dwdIt might be useful to have SCAM give us an update each week if possible.
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MattJAgreed
dwdSomeone (I forget who) at the Council meeting noted that there wasn't any particular reason to have the Summit happen in line with the FOSDEM timing, mind, and I'm fine with that if that's the plan.
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ralphmRight. For me the primary value for the Summit is to bring people (physically) together. The second is for the concentrated high(er) bandwidth discussions.
dwdWho is the liaision between Board and SCAM?
ralphmProbably me.
ralphmI'll follow up on this.
arcThere won't be a physical meeting this year. It is just not possible given the slow vaccine rollout. Maybe next year.
dwdAutumn/Fall, perhaps. Depends on vaccine rollout and new mutations.
ralphmRight, I don't expect one, but am willing to check back in a few months. We used to do two summits a year, and who knows where we are in the fall.
dwdBut there's nothing stopping us from replacing a physical summit with one - or more - online events.
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ralphmIndeed. I'll ask if SCAM has/had anything in mind.
ralphmIf we want to participate, we need to start.
ralphmarc: what does that mean?
arcStudents will be paid half as much as last year, and Google is expecting us to adjust our expectations accordingly
dwdHalf the time as well?
ralphmah, yes
arcSo if students were expected to put 30-40 hours last year, it's 15-20 this year, yes.
dwdOK.
dwdWe could, of course, top that up with our own funds.
ralphmAnyway, seems we have a bit of time. Let's think about if we want to participate and discuss next week how to proceed?
arcThat just has a huge impact on the cost:benefit ratio. Mentors put in the same about of time as previous years but students contribute half an much? Many orgs are discussing whether they still want to participate
ralphmIndeed. Point taken.
dwdarc, That's why I am wondering about whether we replace the missing funds.
ralphm++
dwdarc, I assume mentor/org funding from Google also halves?
arcNot as I recall.
ralphm400 USD per accepted student, says FAQ
dwdOh, OK. So how much is the student shortfall we'd have to make up, anyone know?
arcThat depends on which country they're from
arcIf they are living in the United States, $3000 IIRC
arcA few years ago they changed the program to paying students based on country cost of living index, instead of one flat amount.
ralphmI need to give this a bit more thought
dwdRight, makes sense.
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arcI would recommend that we look at Outreachy
dwdOh, interesting. Yes, looks like something to look into.
dwdCan we agree we all look into these options - Outreachy, and making up the shortfall on GSoC - and discuss next week?
arcSounds good
dwd(And maybe exchange thoguhts on the mailing list between now and then)
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arcI would be happy to outreach to outreachy to discuss how we can join that
ralphmYep
ralphmThanks arc
ralphm3. AOB
ralphm?
dwdJust a note that we have major incidents and "critcon4" and things being declared here, so I may get very busy with work. But hopefully that won't affect Board much.
ralphmOk
ralphm4. Date of Next
ralphm+1W
ralphm5. Close
ralphmThanks all!
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arc24 minutes!
ralphmGood?
arcGood
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emusWould be great if we could try to compensate GSoC, at least partly.
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flowemus, "compensate GSoC"?
mdoschTop up with own money as mentioned earlier I guess.