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jonas’
was xmpp:user:password@domain.example valid or not?
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MattJ
xmpp://user:password@domain.example should be, I don't think xmpp: is, no
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jonas’
thanks
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Zash
For some value of "valid" that may include "deprecated for a decade"... 😕
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Zash
Without replacement, since passing credentials around like that is not that great.
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Zash
🤷️
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MattJ
Yes, better embed them in JSON instead ;)
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hides
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Zash
Still supported by URI/URL parsers tho.. so I'd lean towards the sorta-standardized over made up JSON formats.
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Zash
Re https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#query-limit-id
Those two queries should give the same results if they had 'after-id' in RSM instead?
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lovetox
hm no the second would not end at the before id
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Zash
Wouldn't that be subject to page sizes in both cases?
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lovetox
only because a page is finished
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lovetox
does not mean you get a complete=true iq
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lovetox
not sure what you are after, of course you can get the same messages with rsm, and then simply abort once you reach that stanza-id
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lovetox
but that is a bit weird given that this is a query protocol
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lovetox
do you make open ended SQL queries and abort once you think your done?
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lovetox
no you query exactly what you need, start -> end
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lovetox
and thats what these filter options allow now
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Zash
In this code, the RSM before/after was translated to SQL WHERE. after-id and before-id would too.
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Or would it? That's the question.
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Zash
`WHERE id > (rsm.after OR after-id) AND id < (rsm.before OR before-id)` or somesuch
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lovetox
there is no rsm before AND after
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lovetox
its either or
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Zash
That's not the point
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lovetox
if i understand you correctly you try to translate something, that cant be translated
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lovetox
the second example in the xep is not doable with rsm in an efficient manner
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lovetox
you could get lucky with the page size ending exactly on that stanza-id, and then you could abort
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lovetox
but thats luck
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Zash
form.before-id=09af3-cc343-b409f
rsm.after=28482-98726-73623
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lovetox
yes thats equivalent
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lovetox
now i understand you
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Zash
🙂
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lovetox
rsm after == form after-id
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lovetox
so it does not matter which of the two you set
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lovetox
of course this depends on the implementation on the server
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lovetox
if the server like prosody only querys exactly the page it servs, then its equivalent
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lovetox
if some server would maybe prepare the whole result set, then this is performance wise maybe not equivalent
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Zash
One difference I can think of is how the rsm count field is calculated. I'm assuming that should be calculated/estimated while ignoring the RSM bits
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lovetox
hm but count is a rsm feature
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lovetox
would be weird to igore the other rsm fields
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lovetox
hm no the XEP says it has to show the ful result set
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lovetox
yes, without the mam filter fields you would have to calc the count on each rsm query again
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lovetox
hm no only in the case no filter option was given
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lovetox
i dont see how this changes something Zash
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lovetox
count should always depend on the mam filter fields
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lovetox
now there are more filter fields but thats it
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lovetox
if i do a mam query without filters, no start date, no end date, the typical sign on and catchup after stanza-id
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lovetox
then count should be the count of all messages in the database for that account
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Zash
yes. count should reflect how many messages match the base mam query.
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