XSF Discussion - 2021-01-09


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  256. jonas’ was xmpp:user:password@domain.example valid or not?
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  259. MattJ xmpp://user:password@domain.example should be, I don't think xmpp: is, no
  260. jonas’ thanks
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  282. Zash For some value of "valid" that may include "deprecated for a decade"... 😕
  283. Zash Without replacement, since passing credentials around like that is not that great.
  284. Zash 🤷️
  285. MattJ Yes, better embed them in JSON instead ;)
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  289. Zash Still supported by URI/URL parsers tho.. so I'd lean towards the sorta-standardized over made up JSON formats.
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  390. Zash Re https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#query-limit-id Those two queries should give the same results if they had 'after-id' in RSM instead?
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  408. lovetox hm no the second would not end at the before id
  409. Zash Wouldn't that be subject to page sizes in both cases?
  410. lovetox only because a page is finished
  411. lovetox does not mean you get a complete=true iq
  412. lovetox not sure what you are after, of course you can get the same messages with rsm, and then simply abort once you reach that stanza-id
  413. lovetox but that is a bit weird given that this is a query protocol
  414. lovetox do you make open ended SQL queries and abort once you think your done?
  415. lovetox no you query exactly what you need, start -> end
  416. lovetox and thats what these filter options allow now
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  418. Zash In this code, the RSM before/after was translated to SQL WHERE. after-id and before-id would too.
  419. Zash Or would it? That's the question.
  420. Zash `WHERE id > (rsm.after OR after-id) AND id < (rsm.before OR before-id)` or somesuch
  421. lovetox there is no rsm before AND after
  422. lovetox its either or
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  425. Zash That's not the point
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  427. lovetox if i understand you correctly you try to translate something, that cant be translated
  428. lovetox the second example in the xep is not doable with rsm in an efficient manner
  429. lovetox you could get lucky with the page size ending exactly on that stanza-id, and then you could abort
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  431. lovetox but thats luck
  432. Zash form.before-id=09af3-cc343-b409f rsm.after=28482-98726-73623
  433. lovetox yes thats equivalent
  434. lovetox now i understand you
  435. Zash 🙂
  436. lovetox rsm after == form after-id
  437. lovetox so it does not matter which of the two you set
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  440. lovetox of course this depends on the implementation on the server
  441. lovetox if the server like prosody only querys exactly the page it servs, then its equivalent
  442. lovetox if some server would maybe prepare the whole result set, then this is performance wise maybe not equivalent
  443. Zash One difference I can think of is how the rsm count field is calculated. I'm assuming that should be calculated/estimated while ignoring the RSM bits
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  445. lovetox hm but count is a rsm feature
  446. lovetox would be weird to igore the other rsm fields
  447. lovetox hm no the XEP says it has to show the ful result set
  448. lovetox yes, without the mam filter fields you would have to calc the count on each rsm query again
  449. lovetox hm no only in the case no filter option was given
  450. lovetox i dont see how this changes something Zash
  451. lovetox count should always depend on the mam filter fields
  452. lovetox now there are more filter fields but thats it
  453. lovetox if i do a mam query without filters, no start date, no end date, the typical sign on and catchup after stanza-id
  454. lovetox then count should be the count of all messages in the database for that account
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  457. Zash yes. count should reflect how many messages match the base mam query.
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