XSF Discussion - 2021-01-16


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  188. lovetox Zash, MattJ is it somewhere written down what the avatar conversion module logic is
  189. lovetox regarding respecting access controls of pubsub
  190. lovetox when someone querys a vcard-temp
  191. MattJ It essentially translates the vcard request to PEP requests, so the access control is the same
  192. MattJ so if your PEP node(s) are contacts-only, only contacts will be able to query vcard-temp
  193. MattJ for example
  194. lovetox ok for requests this is probably easy
  195. lovetox what about publishing, what if i publish with vcard-temp an avatar
  196. lovetox would that change my pubsub access-model to open?
  197. lovetox i guess not
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  199. MattJ https://hg.prosody.im/trunk/file/tip/plugins/mod_vcard_legacy.lua#l157
  200. MattJ If the node doesn't exist, it will be open by default (because that's the traditional behaviour of mod_vcard)
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  202. MattJ But if it is configured, the existing settings will not be overwritten
  203. lovetox yeah sound sane
  204. lovetox I ask because i was talking about it with Holger, because ejabberd does not have that logic yet
  205. lovetox so its basically, if a node exists apply access control also to the vcard-temp module
  206. lovetox if not, just do as always
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  217. MattJ Yep. It helps to consider that the vcard-temp module is now doing nothing except translating the request to a PEP request
  218. MattJ or a save to a PEP save
  219. lovetox Sounds also easier than maintaining 2 storages and trying to sync them
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  221. MattJ Definitely
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  281. edhelas So temp is going to not be temp soon
  282. Zash Except now it's used for MUCs as well.
  283. Zash And participant avatars in MUC are weird
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  362. mathieui I have a PEP question, would it be possible to expose PEP nodes on a server’s JID, and would it be a protocol violation to allow multiple publishers there (e.g. server admins)?
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  364. Zash mathieui, isn't that just plain ol' pubsub then?
  365. Zash or, how much of the automagic subscription stuff do you need from PEP?
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  367. mathieui Zash, well, I guess that’s just pubsub, I’m only interested in the +notify
  368. mathieui (and discoverability)
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  370. Zash Depending on how much PEP is just pubsub with some sensible defaults... tho a big thing is being attached to your account
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  374. Zash Except for +notify, at least with Prosody, you pretty much get that by loading mod_pubsub on a normal host.
  375. mathieui The only thing is that this is something I would like to have easily implemented in clients as a receiver role, so it’s better if it does not require more features
  376. mathieui but I guess that canb be specified without too much of a hassle
  377. mathieui (publishing is another matter, but this could be an adhoc command too for all I care)
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  384. Zash > would it be a protocol violation to allow multiple publishers there (e.g. server admins)? no, not a protocol violation, just a matter of how much of pubsub you support
  385. Zash Does PEP even mandate the affiliation management parts of pubsub?
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  387. Zash Huh!
  388. Zash > A PEP service MUST: > - Support the "open", "roster", and "whitelist" access models.
  389. Zash I thought 'open' and 'whitelist' were optional.
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  391. mathieui another question would be; is a pubsub node on the base server JID something that is possible at all in current implementions?
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  393. mathieui another question would be; is a pubsub node on the base server JID something possible at all in current implementions?
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  397. Zash Prosody can. Ejabberd docs doesn't seem to say you can't, but don't know.
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