XSF Discussion - 2021-01-23

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  95. arc

    Wondering what people think about the name Spring Relay?

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  97. arc

    Relay as in a bunch of sprints

  98. arc

    Calling it spring vs March has the advantage that if it becomes a regular deal, we could have a spring event done under, during our fall

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  246. emus

    https://xmpp.org/2021/01/instant-messaging-its-not-about-the-app/ Thanks to everyone participating! 🤗️

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  411. MattJ

    Yay, thanks for all your work on this emus :)

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  413. mathieui

    Thanks a lot indeed!

  414. emus

    You are welcome. Ill try to arrange some tweets tonight

  415. MattJ

    Sounds good :)

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  421. Daniel

    > You are welcome. Ill try to arrange some tweets tonight emus: be arrange you mean find the wording or do the actual tweet?

  422. Daniel

    Because if this is about tweeting I can help you out

  423. emus

    Daniel: Yes that - thanks. One second

  424. emus

    > Instant Messaging: It's not about the app - #XMPP provides sovereignty of your communication https://xmpp.org/2021/01/instant-messaging-its-not-about-the-app/ #openstandards #opensource #decentralisation #interoperability

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  431. emus

    That as a tweet would be nice. I also thought to pin it. (not that lauras is bad, I linked it in the article, too)

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  433. emus

    Maybe we need a tiny link - any one have a trustful recommendation?

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  435. Daniel

    i don’t think url shorting improves anything here

  436. Daniel

    i think i don’t have the rights to pin the tweet

  437. Daniel

    but i tweeted it

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  441. emus

    Daniel: Thank you very much, thats alright!

  442. Daniel

    i do agree tho

  443. Daniel

    a five year old blog post doesn’t make the best pinned tweet

  444. Daniel

    a ~five~ six year old blog post doesn’t make the best pinned tweet

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  446. emus

    Yes, I just thought its good to have something current to. even so the content hasnt aged really https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1352946729713340416?s=20

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  448. emus

    dunno if I got a decent link there

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  459. mathieui

    (fyi, it has been a while since twitter stopped counting link URLs in the body size, as it will add an ellipsis and only count the size of a t.co URL which is the one people will click on anyway)

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  461. Daniel

    emus, can the blog engine insert header tags?

  462. Daniel

    for a post?

  463. mathieui

    ah yes, having a twitter card for xmpp.org blog posts would be nice

  464. Daniel

    yes posting plain links on twitter ist somewhat ugly

  465. Daniel

    i make sure to always have cards even if they don’t have a lot of content

  466. emus

    Daniel: Unfortunately ai have few understanding of pelican. but it can be possible maybe

  467. mathieui

    it is kind of awful that they require twitter-specific tags, facebook-specific tags, etc, though…

  468. Daniel

    i just didn’t want delay tweeting it

  469. Daniel

    plus you can update it later

  470. mathieui

    it looks like there is a plugin for that: https://github.com/MichaelMartinez/twitter_card

  471. emus

    Daniel: Lets try to review this, I will ask iTeam, maybe they have an answer

  472. mathieui

    (otoh I guess a manual theme modification would be enough for a basic card)

  473. emus

    ok, Im gonna review tonight

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  479. edhelas

    here we go, retweeted :)

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  488. mathieui

    ok, I have a metadata generator that works for articles, making a pull request

  489. mathieui

    looks like this https://pix.mathieui.net/o/KEHds.png (but for xmpp.org as a website of course)

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  535. Neustradamus

    I think there is a problem of date for the last article on the XSF blog.

  536. mathieui

    Neustradamus, well, it is the redaction date, not the publication date

  537. jonas’

    not this again

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  539. Neustradamus

    It breaks the data flow ;) The date must be the validation date.

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  585. emus

    I tend to always forget that^^

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  597. moparisthebest

    What's a validation date

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  599. moparisthebest

    emus: again great job on article, mind posting it https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp ?

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  602. wurstsalat

    Seve ^ ?

  603. Zash

    moparisthebest, "publishing date" presumably

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  688. emus

    moparisthebest: gonna do it later, but let me have a bit of my day off ☺

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  705. moparisthebest

    emus: xsf has no time constraints, enjoy :)

  706. emus


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  823. emus

    Any comments on this or request, that I should wait for one review? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/870

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  827. mathieui

    emus, ad the end, it should be "an [XMPP" and not "a [XMPP"

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  829. mathieui

    emus, at the end, it should be "an [XMPP" and not "a [XMPP"

  830. emus

    why actually? an only in front of vocals right?

  831. mathieui

    it depends on the sound made by the starting letters of the word

  832. mathieui

    in the case of XMPP, it starts with ex-, which is therefore a vowel

  833. mathieui

    (unless you want to pronounce it "Zimpy" as per Ge0rG rules :D)

  834. mathieui

    (my rule of thumb is "if you pronounce it and it require a pause after the a, use an", but I am not a native speaker)

  835. Zash

    "if you pronounce it and it feels wrong, then use the other variation"

  836. mathieui

    I did check on grammarly before making that remark though :p, to be 200% sure

  837. mathieui

    also you put UWXP for UWPX

  838. mathieui

    (can’t fault you for that one too much either)

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  846. emus

    hehe, thanks for review

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  852. mathieui

    emus: I'll try to review the french one tomorrow

  853. emus

    Thanks, take your time!

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  855. mathieui

    Also, what is the licensing for the blog? (E.g. is it possible to reblog on linuxfr with proper attribution? )

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  859. emus

    Good question, from my personal side you one can reblog it with the attribution. arc, ralphm, SouL, dwd MattJ ?

  860. emus

    I don't know if blog articles got under the same license as the Newsletter 🧐️

  861. arc

    I would say they do

  862. arc

    Or should

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  864. emus

    If the board agrees, I am happy to put it under the license (add the info same as from the newsletter)

  865. emus

    >License >This newsletter is published under CC BY-SA license.

  866. arc


  867. arc

    I'm interested in hearing what people think about the events name "Spring Relay", which would be an organized series of sprints on xmpp software and community online meetups over the course of 4-6 weeks this spring, likely starting in March

  868. emus

    We might should also put a 4.0 https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions

  869. arc

    I'm thinking if we did it a second time, that would be well oriented to discuss in person at FOSDEM in February, and it gives enough time now to start organizing it.

  870. MattJ

    Before this gets to "let's wait for Board to decide what licence the blog is under", let's say emus wrote the content and can choose to license it however

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  872. arc

    +1 mattj, I would just say since it's going on our website it should be under a free license of some form, because if it was a controversial license it would reflect poorly on the organization

  873. emus

    If this is a XMPP focused event, I would put it as XMPP Spring Relay or dunno any other wording with relation what it will be about

  874. MattJ

    I don't want reblogging held up for another week on a silly discussion like that, nobody is going to sue for copyright infringement - pick a CC and go for it :)

  875. arc

    Emus xmpp spring relay is fine

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  877. emus

    MattJ, okay - I'm asking as this is on a official page from XSF, so I dont wanna go crazy with that stuff

  878. arc

    Emus, it sounds like you have good judgment and I've already spent far too much time thinking about this 😅

  879. emus

    As I put a new commit to the text. Does it make sense to change the header date? It is actually wrong^^. Or will this create a republish?

  880. arc


  881. MattJ

    We can (and should) determine what licence blog contributions are to be placed under, but in the short term: you choose something you're happy with and let mathieui know

  882. emus


  883. SamWhited

    emus: Don't worry about the date.

  884. arc

    Conversations needs past message edit support.

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  886. arc

    I'm looking for feedback because I'm working with our arts team and we're producing a short promo video (in webb/ogg of course)

  887. arc

    And I need to get the proposal too SCAM, start looking for small contributions from corporate sponsors

  888. arc

    Cisco, nike, intel, google, microsoft, to name a few easy ones.

  889. arc

    Hey btw since I'm in inkscape, just a side thought, does anyone have the font file for the xmpp logo handy? Is there one?

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  891. arc

    So far I've only talked to nike and they seem open to chipping in a few hundred. They apparently have a budget left over from last year for open source that didn't get used because all the conferences were canceled

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  894. arc

    So my general thinking is, that might be pretty common among. So even with international shipping we should be able to manage swag and such

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  896. emus

    Can you tell a bit more on the Spring? Havent read on this yet

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