Can anybody tell me what is this all about cause i came here by mistake?
MattJ
It's about developing XMPP, an open communication protocol. Welcome :)
MHHHMY
i see, so can i ask a question that doesn't has anything to do with developing "XMPP" ?
MHHHMY
How do i use "XMPP" to chat with someone?
vanitasvitae
you already do 🙂
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MHHHMY
yeah i took so long for anyone to reply so i asked any way
MHHHMY
*it
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Zash
Is a question about asking questions a question that doesn't have anything to do with XMPP development?
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jonas’
MHHHMY, the answer worked for both of your questinos.
jonas’
You’re already chatting using XMPP.
Zash
Looks like they left a long time ago.
jonas’
thanks Dino
jonas’
for still offering me the name for completion nontheless
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Holger
jonas’: It's 2021, MUC is no longer presence-based.
Zash
except when it is
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Holger
Was only half-joking, I'm sometimes annoyed by clients *not* completing offline members.
Holger
Obviously clients should complete the nick if the user comes back, and not do it otherwise.
mathieui
Holger, offline members, sure, offline participants, less
Holger
I'll agree with "less" 🙂
Holger
Do it sometimes.
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jonas’
Holger, I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like
jonas’
because that’s an easy way to find if someone is still in the room
jonas’
which is especially hard to do otherwise with occupant lists sorted by affiliation and whatnot
Zashdreams of visual hints
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lovetox
couldnt you just show a status indicator
lovetox
and if its grey or black the person is not currently joined
jonas’
where?
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Zash
N900 MUC view had status dots in the corner of the avatars IIRC
Zash
Or next to them? Found a screenshot:
https://www.nolapeles.com/2009/08/30/nokia-n900-y-maemo-5-respuesta-impelable/
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moparisthebest
jonas’, (apologies, can't remember which MUC this discussion started in yesterday) re: jitsi interop via iframe https://developer.8x8.com/jaas/docs
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lovetox
jonas in the muc roster list?
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jonas’
lovetox, a non-member?
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lovetox
ok maybe i dont understand this sentence
lovetox
> I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like
lovetox
you like that conversations shows that a user left, BUT every other client *doesnt* complete absent people?
lovetox
so all clients show users that have left?
lovetox
im not following that observation at all
Zash
lovetox, it shows them that when you try to mention them (by clicking their avatar)
Zash
Desktop client equivalent would probably be when you tab-complete their nick or somesuch
lovetox
so this is only about tab completion
lovetox
but why wouldnt i complete the name, the user comes back later
Zash
No
Zash
The root problem is that you have no way of knowing if they're still there when you write something.
lovetox
ah ok, so you want a hint when you tab complete
lovetox
and thats what C shows
Zash
In some clients you can tell by the nickname being gone from tab complete, like poezio.
lovetox
ok i understand, yes thats indeed very nice of C
lovetox
in that light my remark about user status makes of course not much sense