XSF Discussion - 2021-01-28

Can anybody tell me what is this all about cause i came here by mistake?

It's about developing XMPP, an open communication protocol. Welcome :)

i see, so can i ask a question that doesn't has anything to do with developing "XMPP" ?

How do i use "XMPP" to chat with someone?

you already do 🙂

yeah i took so long for anyone to reply so i asked any way

*it

Is a question about asking questions a question that doesn't have anything to do with XMPP development?

MHHHMY, the answer worked for both of your questinos.

You’re already chatting using XMPP.

Looks like they left a long time ago.

thanks Dino

for still offering me the name for completion nontheless

jonas’: It's 2021, MUC is no longer presence-based.

except when it is

Was only half-joking, I'm sometimes annoyed by clients *not* completing offline members.

Obviously clients should complete the nick if the user comes back, and not do it otherwise.

Holger, offline members, sure, offline participants, less

I'll agree with "less" 🙂

Do it sometimes.

Holger, I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like

because that’s an easy way to find if someone is still in the room

which is especially hard to do otherwise with occupant lists sorted by affiliation and whatnot

couldnt you just show a status indicator

and if its grey or black the person is not currently joined

where?

N900 MUC view had status dots in the corner of the avatars IIRC

Or next to them? Found a screenshot: https://www.nolapeles.com/2009/08/30/nokia-n900-y-maemo-5-respuesta-impelable/

jonas’, (apologies, can't remember which MUC this discussion started in yesterday) re: jitsi interop via iframe https://developer.8x8.com/jaas/docs

jonas in the muc roster list?

lovetox, a non-member?

ok maybe i dont understand this sentence

> I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like

you like that conversations shows that a user left, BUT every other client *doesnt* complete absent people?

so all clients show users that have left?

im not following that observation at all

lovetox, it shows them that when you try to mention them (by clicking their avatar)

Desktop client equivalent would probably be when you tab-complete their nick or somesuch

so this is only about tab completion

but why wouldnt i complete the name, the user comes back later

No

The root problem is that you have no way of knowing if they're still there when you write something.

ah ok, so you want a hint when you tab complete

and thats what C shows

In some clients you can tell by the nickname being gone from tab complete, like poezio.

ok i understand, yes thats indeed very nice of C

in that light my remark about user status makes of course not much sense

:)