MHHHMYCan anybody tell me what is this all about cause i came here by mistake?
MattJIt's about developing XMPP, an open communication protocol. Welcome :)
MHHHMYi see, so can i ask a question that doesn't has anything to do with developing "XMPP" ?
MHHHMYHow do i use "XMPP" to chat with someone?
vanitasvitaeyou already do 🙂
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MHHHMYyeah i took so long for anyone to reply so i asked any way
MHHHMY*it
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ZashIs a question about asking questions a question that doesn't have anything to do with XMPP development?
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jonas’MHHHMY, the answer worked for both of your questinos.
jonas’You’re already chatting using XMPP.
ZashLooks like they left a long time ago.
jonas’thanks Dino
jonas’for still offering me the name for completion nontheless
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Holgerjonas’: It's 2021, MUC is no longer presence-based.
Zashexcept when it is
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HolgerWas only half-joking, I'm sometimes annoyed by clients *not* completing offline members.
HolgerObviously clients should complete the nick if the user comes back, and not do it otherwise.
mathieuiHolger, offline members, sure, offline participants, less
HolgerI'll agree with "less" 🙂
HolgerDo it sometimes.
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jonas’Holger, I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like
jonas’because that’s an easy way to find if someone is still in the room
jonas’which is especially hard to do otherwise with occupant lists sorted by affiliation and whatnot
Zashdreams of visual hints
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lovetoxcouldnt you just show a status indicator
lovetoxand if its grey or black the person is not currently joined
jonas’where?
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ZashN900 MUC view had status dots in the corner of the avatars IIRC
ZashOr next to them? Found a screenshot:
https://www.nolapeles.com/2009/08/30/nokia-n900-y-maemo-5-respuesta-impelable/
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moparisthebestjonas’, (apologies, can't remember which MUC this discussion started in yesterday) re: jitsi interop via iframe https://developer.8x8.com/jaas/docs
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lovetoxjonas in the muc roster list?
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jonas’lovetox, a non-member?
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lovetoxok maybe i dont understand this sentence
lovetox> I like what conversations does (showing a "The user has left the room" toast(?)), but every other client doesn’t complete absent people, which I like
lovetoxyou like that conversations shows that a user left, BUT every other client *doesnt* complete absent people?
lovetoxso all clients show users that have left?
lovetoxim not following that observation at all
Zashlovetox, it shows them that when you try to mention them (by clicking their avatar)
ZashDesktop client equivalent would probably be when you tab-complete their nick or somesuch
lovetoxso this is only about tab completion
lovetoxbut why wouldnt i complete the name, the user comes back later
ZashNo
ZashThe root problem is that you have no way of knowing if they're still there when you write something.
lovetoxah ok, so you want a hint when you tab complete
lovetoxand thats what C shows
ZashIn some clients you can tell by the nickname being gone from tab complete, like poezio.
lovetoxok i understand, yes thats indeed very nice of C
lovetoxin that light my remark about user status makes of course not much sense