XSF Discussion - 2021-02-13

00:00:46 mimi89999 Previously without GDPR and without widespread spam, not many servers wanted to have custom forms with ToS, captcha or email
00:01:53 mimi89999 Why are you obsessed with .well-known? Makes me think of email autoconfig.
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00:14:37 mimi89999 Yes, as Ge0rG said. Currently servers just show a ToS in instructions or fixed and the client can silently skip that as Dino did without being malicious. At least tying it to a bool field would be required.
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05:10:55 DebXWoody Hi. Exists a tool to convert XEPs to manages? xepXML2man?
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05:15:48 DebXWoody Ah, it's OK. I will just use w3m and write a small script where I just fill the number and get the URL.
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10:47:08 lovetox i have to say my forms impl was one of the most benefical things i did in Gajim
10:47:26 lovetox if you dont have a good and nice forms impl you are missing out on a lot of stuff xmpp can do
10:48:00 lovetox IBR, Groupchat Config, Pubsub Node Config, Adhoc Commands, and im probably forgetting others
10:48:27 lovetox if you have a nice GUI forms impl, these dialogs are suddenly 200 line code and you are finished, get an iq, display the form, send
10:48:48 lovetox it becomes a no brainer to support these features
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10:50:02 lovetox does the form look in every scenario with every server super good? probably not, some servers think the label attr of a field is a place to write a book
10:50:56 lovetox but on the other hand i dont blame them, with not many forms impl out their they most of the time dont know that it looks shitty
10:53:58 mimi89999 Yes. Forms are a must for every XMPP client now. Conv does not have them and everything using them (IBR, MUC config, etc.) is very limited there.
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10:54:55 mimi89999 lovetox: I saw that you decided to display 2 titles in IBR forms. Gajim and the server one. Why?
10:55:30 lovetox mimi89999, but keep in mind, and smartphone client has a target audience, and limited space, i dont think its useful to add too much features on a smartphone
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10:56:54 lovetox no specific reason, i guess because i dont trust servers to add a good title
10:57:20 mimi89999 Then we end up with 2 titles...
10:57:35 lovetox but yeah when a title is provided i could i hide ours
10:57:47 lovetox i think thats ok
10:57:57 lovetox the window itself has also the title create account
10:58:11 lovetox so its actually 3 times in there
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12:43:47 flow Zash> And data forms are defined by XEP-0004, not 389. And we all hate it, FWIW, I ♥ data forms and ad-hoc commands ;) (but there sure is room for improvement)
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19:50:48 potato hi don't mind me just testing a new account
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