XSF Discussion - 2021-02-17

Kev, re your standards@ mail: which namespace prefixing is illegal? I can only guess that it has probably something to do with <stream/>. Would be great if you would add some pointers to those (corner) cases if you mention them. Otherwise people, like me, are more confused after reading your mail than before

to me, it's not even clear what "not all namespace prefixing" refers to? the value of the namespace? Or the kind of prefixing (foo:element foo:xmlns= VS element xmlns=)?

flow, RFC 6120 has some opinions on that

for example, you cannot use prefixes declared on the initial stream header in elements inside stanzas

(well, you could, technically, but it’s not interoperable according to RFC 6120)

I can also imagine that there are implementations out there doing the wrong thing when you go like: ``` <iq xmlns:payload="something" xmlns="jabber:client"> <pubsub xmlns="…"> <item> <payload:data/> </item> </pubsub> </iq> ``` ✏

not that they are compliant… but…

jonas’, could you point me to the relvant rfc sections?

flow, I’ll try

flow, this one links to the relevant ones I think: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120#section-11.2

"An implementation MUST NOT generate namespace prefixes for elements qualified by the content namespace (i.e., the default namespace for data sent over the stream) if the content namespace is 'jabber: client' or 'jabber:server'. "

Also "Routing entities (typically servers) SHOULD try to maintain prefixes when serializing XML stanzas for processing"

(Which I feel is a particularly weird requirement, and I can’t see why it should matter, but it’s there)

Wait, what does that mean?

Ping ralphm, arc, dwd: does the XSF plan on participating in GSoC? The board meeting didn't happen last week, but the deadline is Friday according to vanitasvitae in the GSoC room, so I assume if we are going to we need to do something before the next board meeting?

Yeah I'm putting in an application

*nods* thanks!

The concern was that we would not have enough interest from mentors. But I think that has been answered

Has it? I think I'm still the only person to put ideas on the list :) I'm sure some of the usual projects will step up though

I'm going to add a few myself.

But even just a few ideas is enough for the application. Its entirely possible that we get one student

And for that matter, given the current state of the global economy, we may even have XSF members sign up for a class at the local community college to be a student.