XSF Discussion - 2021-04-15


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  309. Zash In https://xmpp.org/registrar/disco-categories.html#account there's an identity for anonymous accounts. Anyone think it would be useful to have a server-level feature or identity meaning "all users here are anonymous users"?
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  312. Zash Normally such hosts aren't federated, or very limited, but if they're not it might be handy for e.g. a MUC to know.
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  367. arc I wonder if we are going to have a board meeting this morning? Ralphm
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  369. arc Tagging for alert only
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  389. arc Meeting time?
  390. MattJ Here o/
  391. arc Two of us!
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  393. Zash ralphm, dwd?
  394. arc MattJ how is your work been going?
  395. dwd Hiya, sorry.
  396. ralphm .
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  398. ralphm 0. Welcome
  399. ralphm Hi!
  400. ralphm (my client was acting up)
  401. arc Looks like we are all here this week!
  402. ralphm Yay
  403. ralphm Agenda items?
  404. MattJ arc, fine thanks :)
  405. arc Well we have the old business with the CoC etc
  406. ralphm Right
  407. ralphm Anything else?
  408. dwd Mea culpa, my impending large amounts of free time have acted in opposition to actually getting the CoC etc done.
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  410. ralphm We could revisit the topic on acting as a fiscal host
  411. ralphm Ok, let's get start and see what else pops up.
  412. ralphm 1. Minute Taker
  413. ralphm I think that's arc.
  414. arc Yeah it's my turn.
  415. ralphm 2. CoC, etc. As per dwd's comment above, let's punt on this one.
  416. ralphm 3. XSF as fiscal host
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  418. ralphm I've seen Sam having sent an e-mail to Peter and Peter mentions to 'need a think', but suggests working with Open Collective as they have infra and process in place.
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  420. MattJ My feeling is that Open Collective would be preferable, it's literally what they are built for
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  422. Kev How many people said it’d be useful (and were they in a region Open Collective would support), BTW (just roughly)?
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  424. ralphm Sam, are you around?
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  427. arc I would not imagine that is a situation where people are waiting on us, but rather, having the right process in place is important for when people are needing it
  428. dwd There's a degree of "build it and they will come".
  429. Kev Fairy narfs.
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  431. MattJ I agree. And I would like to see the XSF be more proactive in this area, proposing projects that could be funded, for example
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  433. ralphm nods
  434. dwd That all sounds sensible.
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  436. ralphm So I guess the motion is to proceed to work with the Open Collective to get this going?
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  438. MattJ I guess I would second such a motion
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  440. ralphm Ok, making that a motion
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  446. dwd (Still somewhat predicated on the Treasurer saying it sounds sensible)
  447. ralphm Motion carries.
  448. ralphm Agreed dwd
  449. ralphm We still need to figure out the actual process. My hope was that Sam was interested in working with Peter on this further.
  450. Sam works for meet
  451. Sam me*
  452. ralphm yay
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  454. ralphm 3. AOB
  455. ralphm ?
  456. MattJ None here
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  458. ralphm Nice and quick then.
  459. ralphm 4. Date of Next
  460. ralphm +1W
  461. ralphm 5. Close
  462. ralphm Thanks all!
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  464. MattJ Thanks!
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  469. Sam (sorry, just saw the "are you around")
  470. Sam To (belatedly) answer Kev's question, I got one response to my question on the list and it was from someone who said their company is already a company so they don't need this sort of thing
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  474. Sam Oh, and one person volunteered their organizations as hosts in other countries and one person said they might potentially be interested
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  503. emus And maybe there are also many that havent read this message. Sam, if I can help you with sonthing particular on the "actual process" - let me know
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  529. arc Again I think this is more of a build it and they will come situation. Typically when a project realizes they need a fiscal sponsor, they're going to look, make a decision, and choose one. They are unlikely to act on it until they need to, and they are more unlikely wait around for the "right one" to come into existence.
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  534. arc Part of the reason we have fiscal sponsors is we, as developers, hate doing legal and financial paperwork because it is largely a waste of time.. and when we have to do it, we try to get it done quickly.
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  536. emus Well, one could state the other way round, if there is no institution the project may not be realized or continued. And waiting until XSF provides that will also take long
  537. emus Apart from this:
  538. emus Hello everyone, I know I'm late, but now its mid of month - time for the new newsletter draft! 🎉️ And time for your commits, news and updates! ✍️ https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/914 Online pad: https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days
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