XSF Discussion - 2021-04-23


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  461. goffi Hi there, I've finally made the official announce if you want the details for the ActivityPub<=>XMPP gateway and Pubsub e2ee project: https://www.goffi.org/b/activitypub-gateway-and-pubsub-e2ee-QGqK
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  466. mathieui great!
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  487. emus MattJ: https://xmpp.org/uses/instant-messaging.html
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  502. MattJ emus, thanks... those are all examples of XMPP built into specific products though
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  538. emus You meant using xmpp "plain"
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  552. MattJ Looking for general communication over interoperable XMPP rather than most of these examples which simply feature XMPP as a solution for chat within their particular product
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  555. emus Ah okay
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  564. Daniel Most organizations I know of or heard rumors of are more on the secretive side.
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  567. MattJ Indeed
  568. Zash I only heard "Oh, XMPP? We used that 10 years ago. Pidgin was great!"
  569. MattJ I heard "20" today
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  572. MattJ and a sentence beginning with "The only problem with XMPP is..."
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  578. yushyin apropos pidgin, at my work we still use irc and the not so tech-savvy colleagues use pidgin as irc client :D it is the worst irc client I know about ...
  579. mdosch I'd rather use it for IRC than for XMPP…
  580. yushyin well ... yes you are indeed right
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  582. wgreenhouse does anybody know of any papers or real-world examples of XEP-0174 (serverless xmpp) being used over a vpn or mesh network?
  583. wgreenhouse lack of authentication of users is a bit weird but it seems like an interesting potential application
  584. jonas’ hmmm mesh/vpn+serverless sounds problematic. IIRC serverless relies a lot on multi- or broadcast, which needs extra support from the network layer in such circumstances (and may not be desirable for performance reasons)
  585. Daniel Fwiw the MOKA / federal police github is still active. I don't know any internals but I'd assume the experiment hasn't ended yet
  586. jonas’ but I don't know of any practical usr
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  588. jonas’ but I don't know of any practical use
  589. wgreenhouse > hmmm mesh/vpn+serverless sounds problematic. IIRC serverless relies a lot on multi- or broadcast, which needs extra support from the network layer in such circumstances (and may not be desirable for performance reasons) jonas’: that makes sense, it requires mDNS (avahi/bonjour)
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  596. emus https://monal.im/blog/vaxbot-continues-to-grow/
  597. emus Not bad
  598. jonas’ unless you’re running yax.im
  599. mathieui :D
  600. jonas’ but, we definitely need that in the upcoming newsletter
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  606. emus Well, Georg is supporting this and knows about it
  607. emus jonas’: Yes 👨‍💻
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  670. mdosch > Well, Georg is supporting this and knows about it Ge0rg is very active in the prosody MUC these days. 😬
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  1002. emus mdosch: What do you mean?
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  1007. mdosch Load problems due to all this vaccination stuff.
  1008. emus But I thought he agreed to this? ok, anyway offtopic
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  1071. mdosch Yeah, he agreed on the use. But the huge load is causing issues.
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  1095. emus Ok, yeah I saw the blog post, too
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  1155. Pedro olá, sou novo aqui
  1156. Zash ehlo
  1157. Pedro Does anyone know pentester? I'm in need of a
  1158. moparisthebest I like a good old ballpoint bic
  1159. Zash Maybe Ge0rG knows one.
  1160. Pedro I would like his contact
  1161. Zash I'm curious why you came to this specific chat to ask that
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  1163. Pedro Because it is a place of serious people
  1164. Ge0rG I do indeed, but they ask 175€/h and you must be a company in the EU
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  1168. Ge0rG Pedro: you can send me a message with your company name and contact data
  1169. Ge0rG I'm a very serious people.
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  1173. Pedro I would like the contact email
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  1189. Pedro paid even more than that
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