XSF Discussion - 2021-05-11


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  210. DebXWoody hi. Is XEP-0085 ( Chat State Notifications ) part of the <envelope/> or <message/> in case of XEP-0420: Stanza Content Encryption
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  212. flow DebXWoody, tough question, depends
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  214. flow do you lean towards the recipient being able to consume the chat state notification or is it more important that the chat state notification is encrypted?
  215. flow if you know that the recipent is able to understand encrypted chat state notifications, then the answer is probably easy
  216. Daniel Imho the question should be: does the server (need to) process this information
  217. MattJ Is there a way for the server to know if the stanza is "important"?
  218. Holger Yes I guess that would be necessary for CSI/push filtering.
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  232. DebXWoody ah, I see. For push it would be better to have it in <envelope/>? <active/> is the only "content message". The other states are "standalone notification". Am I right? We it would be better to do not encypted "standalone notification", there is no need to use encyption at all?
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  274. flow DebXWoody, could you rephrase that question?
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  504. lovetox DebXWoody, for push its better if the server can read it
  505. moparisthebest this is a good lesson for a standards body re: backwards-compat https://www.fragattacks.com/#ieeenoticed
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  508. L29Ah need to write a draft of a draft
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  550. Ge0rG > certain Wi-Fi devices accept any unencrypted frame even when connected to a protected Wi-Fi network. They had one job!
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