XSF Discussion - 2021-05-21

emus, no that one isn't linked from there

Ah now I see - jubalh would you mind to create a PR evtl. also for the other linked library?

> roro, also XMPP is XML over TLS, Matrix is JSON over HTTPS, that's more on the level of implementation detail that doesn't matter though Thanks for that. I'm very interested in what delta.chat is doing now. There is no native voice or video support but conceptually is quite fun.

tox

passing all the suites isn't trivial: https://hyperlife.xyz/share/xmpp-todo.txt

> XMPP is XML over TLS over TCP

inb4 someone brings up QUIC

I'm using it over QUIC already, it's not quite buttoned up yet

moparisthebest, Get an I-D together if you can. Happy to help you navigate that process.

thanks I will certainly take you up on that

few more things to take care of first though, for instance I went with xep-0368 style mixing regular SRV records in the interest of getting *something* working, while I think the proper solution is SRV2/HTTPSVC to replace SRV records across the board

Is the XSF a non-profit or a charity org? Asking for a German translation

I would stick to non-profit

Does it not have that magic number?

As I connnect charity with collecting money, I say we are not this, right?

this number thing is not relevant for Germany I think

well, dict.leo.org claims it's the same in the translation, and I don't care enough to find a non-bulky synonym

I don't know much about US organisation classifications (says the ED of one) but I don't think the XSF is a charity, and non-profit is certainly less ambiguious internationally

Ge0rG: better try with pons

or call it "organisation without commercial background" (in german of course)

I suppose its "gemeinnützig"

https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/non-profit

menel: that's what I've written, but that term actually has a very clearly defined meaning, and promoting open standards isn't on the list

So I've cheated a little, but that's for the greater good

I really think that it would be indeed a "gemeinnutziger Verein im Sinne des Steuerrechts" in germany. Because it does not make profit and does a service to the people.

menel: I've been in such a Verein for twenty years, and we never obtained charity status because our cause was not on the official list

Late last year, the list apparently was extended with climate activism and... Freifunk

Ge0rG: just write gemeinnützig

wow

They literally added Freifunk to the law text, right there between carnival and dog sports

Oh, maybe you are right https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/ao_1977/__52.html But it can still be used, just not in a "Steuerrecht" Sinn. Although If I was a judge, I would say its "Promotion of consumer protection"

menel: I'd say it goes under "maintenance of cemeteries"

They really need to add somehing that covers public infrastructure.

Including digital

Flying taxis

> Ge0rG escribió: > menel: I'd say it goes under "maintenance of cemeteries" 🤣🤣🤣 thats the Ge0rG answer I expected I think menel has a point on the difference to tax issues

maybe add "im nicht steuerrechtlichen Sinne"

No, just omit it 😄 German Wikipedia says there is much gemeinnutzig without being on that tax list

> the promotion of international spirit, tolerance in all fields of culture and the idea of international understanding; Or its that.. It helps me to understand people internationally 😉

The XSF website does support dark mode "now". It is not perfect everywhere, but lets see. Thanks to Link Mauve!

😎️

Ah sorry, no actually was your commit once!

Thanks to Zash and Link Mauve!

Was it?

But also the XMPP Newsletter can be read in dark mode now 🙂 - XMPP Newsletter? Oh yes - saying that you are reminded to add your news from May if you haven't done yet 😊️ 😉 😛 Commits can be done via those ways: - the [online pad](https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days) - the [XSF Comm-Team group chat (MUC)](xmpp:commteam@muc.xmpp.org?join) - the current [XSF Github repository](https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/milestone/3)

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/issues/1009 Zash

Would you look at that

Totally forgot

What do you mean, it is merged and working, right?

Forgot I filed that issue.

ah ok

yes, I went back the linking history in the issues 😀 🕵‍♂️️