XSF Discussion - 2021-05-30


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  272. şişio İs local messaging is sms?
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  275. şişio https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-UlA4-tslROBDS9IqHalWVztqZo7uxlCeKPQ-8uoFOU/htmlview İn this page local message and FIDO1 / U2F is false
  276. şişio What these are
  277. şişio E2e is partial but this is not issue. Some clients are not support e2e, np.
  278. şişio Even Matrix partial
  279. Menel You should ask the Person that created that spreadsheet. Why does it even concern you? But I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with SMS
  280. Menel My suggestion: Instead of reading every data randomly you find, ask what it *your* usecase and only then look for answers about that.
  281. şişio For example?
  282. Menel 😀 think for yourself
  283. şişio My goal is to be open source and ip is not exposed
  284. Menel Only goal? Have you looked at p2p messengers? Otherwise you can get that with xmpp+tor.
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  286. şişio I use xmpp+tor, pretty good
  287. şişio P2p good but only android
  288. şişio I'm curious,
  289. şişio I'm curious
  290. Menel Notice this is not a room for general discussion of alternative messengers. You can find those here: https://search.jabber.network/rooms/1
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  295. şişio Thanks
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  297. şişio U2F is usb password enter tool, Something extra. No problem
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  299. şişio XMPP is very good, ı like it
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  302. şişio In Matrix for once, no matter what, ip stays open. But in the XMPP ip always hidden
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  308. qrpnxz ?
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  310. şişio :(
  311. şişio My english is bad
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  400. şişio I mean XMPP clients has got tor option but Matrix hasnt got
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  417. homebeach you want xmpp+freenet
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  420. homebeach tor can be banned
  421. şişio Why?
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  423. şişio Freenet mobile (Access Freenet from the palm of your hand) - https://f-droid.org/packages/org.freenetproject.mobile İs this?
  424. şişio I hope the add-on comes if it's banned
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  426. şişio Doesn't start until you pass with an freener
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  428. şişio Doesn't start until you pass with an freenet
  429. homebeach yes freenet is much less singöe point of failure
  430. homebeach yes freenet is much less single point of failure
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  432. homebeach it is p2p so no single server to take down
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  434. şişio Why tor is banned?
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  437. homebeach in some countries it is
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  440. şişio Np
  441. şişio I will use riseup and tor
  442. wgreenhouse riseup's xmpp service is going away
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  451. şişio Or I could use a bridge.
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  454. şişio This option is better
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  457. DebXWoody Hi. Is it possible to change a publish-options? When I understand well, the creation of a pubsub will fail <precondition-not-met/>, if the node exists with another value of the given option.
  458. Zash You can change those settings by configuring the node: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#owner-configure
  459. DebXWoody ah, thx.
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  636. larma do we have a "default" port for direct tls s2s connections?
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  638. moparisthebest larma: officially no, unofficially I use 443
  639. larma yeah, there is also some that use 443 for c2s, but we do have unofficial, but widely known 5223 for direct tls c2s
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  641. larma so 5263 it is
  642. moparisthebest https://github.com/moparisthebest/xmpp-proxy/blob/master/src/srv.rs#L122
  643. moparisthebest I use 443 for default for both c2s and s2s direct TLS
  644. moparisthebest It's got multiplexing built in, no reason to do multiple ports like some type of pre millennium neanderthal
  645. larma multiplexing can also be done by a proxy that runs before if people do that. many people actually run their nginx on port 443...
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  647. moparisthebest That's fine, then you move on to the next port
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  649. moparisthebest Nginx handles multiplexing on alpn too by the way
  650. larma moparisthebest, sure, but then which port to run the xmpp server on? Also, why multiplex on the user space when you can do it on kernel space? TCP port numbers are meant to be used for multiplexing already...
  651. larma would be great if we can have servers opportunistically connect to a port to try if a direct tls xmpp server is running there, just like we allow for starttls
  652. larma and 443 certainly is not that port, because that's going to be a non-alpn aware https server for 99% of the hosts
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