XSF Discussion - 2021-05-30

  1. şişio

    İs local messaging is sms?

  2. şişio

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-UlA4-tslROBDS9IqHalWVztqZo7uxlCeKPQ-8uoFOU/htmlview İn this page local message and FIDO1 / U2F is false

  3. şişio

    What these are

  4. şişio

    E2e is partial but this is not issue. Some clients are not support e2e, np.

  5. şişio

    Even Matrix partial

  6. Menel

    You should ask the Person that created that spreadsheet. Why does it even concern you? But I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with SMS

  7. Menel

    My suggestion: Instead of reading every data randomly you find, ask what it *your* usecase and only then look for answers about that.

  8. şişio

    For example?

  9. Menel

    😀 think for yourself

  10. şişio

    My goal is to be open source and ip is not exposed

  11. Menel

    Only goal? Have you looked at p2p messengers? Otherwise you can get that with xmpp+tor.

  12. şişio

    I use xmpp+tor, pretty good

  13. şişio

    P2p good but only android

  14. şişio

    I'm curious,

  15. şişio

    I'm curious

  16. Menel

    Notice this is not a room for general discussion of alternative messengers. You can find those here: https://search.jabber.network/rooms/1

  17. şişio


  18. şişio

    U2F is usb password enter tool, Something extra. No problem

  19. şişio

    XMPP is very good, ı like it

  20. şişio

    In Matrix for once, no matter what, ip stays open. But in the XMPP ip always hidden

  21. qrpnxz


  22. şişio


  23. şişio

    My english is bad

  24. şişio

    I mean XMPP clients has got tor option but Matrix hasnt got

  25. homebeach

    you want xmpp+freenet

  26. homebeach

    tor can be banned

  27. şişio


  28. şişio

    Freenet mobile (Access Freenet from the palm of your hand) - https://f-droid.org/packages/org.freenetproject.mobile İs this?

  29. şişio

    I hope the add-on comes if it's banned

  30. şişio

    Doesn't start until you pass with an freener

  31. şişio

    Doesn't start until you pass with an freenet

  32. homebeach

    yes freenet is much less singöe point of failure

  33. homebeach

    yes freenet is much less single point of failure

  34. homebeach

    it is p2p so no single server to take down

  35. şişio

    Why tor is banned?

  36. homebeach

    in some countries it is

  37. şişio


  38. şişio

    I will use riseup and tor

  39. wgreenhouse

    riseup's xmpp service is going away

  40. şişio

    Or I could use a bridge.

  41. şişio

    This option is better

  42. DebXWoody

    Hi. Is it possible to change a publish-options? When I understand well, the creation of a pubsub will fail <precondition-not-met/>, if the node exists with another value of the given option.

  43. Zash

    You can change those settings by configuring the node: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#owner-configure

  44. DebXWoody

    ah, thx.

  45. larma

    do we have a "default" port for direct tls s2s connections?

  46. moparisthebest

    larma: officially no, unofficially I use 443

  47. larma

    yeah, there is also some that use 443 for c2s, but we do have unofficial, but widely known 5223 for direct tls c2s

  48. larma

    so 5263 it is

  49. moparisthebest


  50. moparisthebest

    I use 443 for default for both c2s and s2s direct TLS

  51. moparisthebest

    It's got multiplexing built in, no reason to do multiple ports like some type of pre millennium neanderthal

  52. larma

    multiplexing can also be done by a proxy that runs before if people do that. many people actually run their nginx on port 443...

  53. moparisthebest

    That's fine, then you move on to the next port

  54. moparisthebest

    Nginx handles multiplexing on alpn too by the way

  55. larma

    moparisthebest, sure, but then which port to run the xmpp server on? Also, why multiplex on the user space when you can do it on kernel space? TCP port numbers are meant to be used for multiplexing already...

  56. larma

    would be great if we can have servers opportunistically connect to a port to try if a direct tls xmpp server is running there, just like we allow for starttls

  57. larma

    and 443 certainly is not that port, because that's going to be a non-alpn aware https server for 99% of the hosts