XSF Discussion - 2021-06-03

> Menel wrote: > Thats the core.. The rest is here https://xmpp.org/extensions/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6120 Core code > https://xmpp.org/extensions/ Remaining code

Right?

There are some more RFCs linked at the top of https://xmpp.org/extensions/ that are relevant.

RFC 6121: XMPP-IM for example, which defines basic chat stuff.

But core code is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6120 ı think

Yes.

The rest are the others.

Thanks

By the way sometimes orbot is reconnect, meanwhile ip appears. Orbot not perfect.

But that can't be on xmpp.

Hi. Is there a general XMPP support MUC? I mean we have jdev@ for developers, xsf@ for specs, but I think that when it goes to end user, they have to find the client-specific room. Maybe it would be more user friendly to have a common room (one per language): more easy to find, more users to answer, and probably most question don't need to be redirected to client specific rooms. What do you think? Would be nice also to have a directory of those room, jabberfr has French support room which could be good candidate for this language.

Did jabber@conference.jabber.org fill this role back in the day?

the idea of an "XMPP HQ" similar to the matrix variant makes a degree of sense

I vaguely feel like client specific answers are going to be most of the questions, but I could be wrong.

even if it's client specific, many questions can be answered by most XMPP enthusiast, without necessarily needing client dev teams.

I note that jdev@ used to be hosted on conference.jabber.org, but sorta moved here because c.j.o had issues, which have since been resolved.

Main problem is probably keeping on top of moderation, so you'd need people who can moderate it.

Anything under the XSF umbrella on that front will probably have to wait for the CoC thing that's in progress in Board.

Nothing stops you from starting xmpp-users-$lang@ any MUC, of course.

sure, I was just throwing the idea because I've just thought about it, I may investigate it more, but I would love to have something common for all XMPP ecosystem, and yes definitely with many moderator.

overall there seems to be a recent problem with spam/abuse in mucs, at least 2 I'm in switched to member+voice requirements for instance

which brought to light all the clients that don't support such things :)

Moderation tooling in XMPP leaves much to be desired.

Oh

goffi, joinxmpp maybe?

Zash: may be

> Zash wrote: > Moderation tooling in XMPP leaves much to be desired. What do you mean? I don't understand

Sorry...

şişio, what don't you understand?

What's leaving? My english is bad. :/

There are improvements that can be made to XMPP to help with managing people who misbehave.

Haa okay, no problem.

Thanks

Question is, if there is anything that would require more XEPs right now?

I am new...

I'm just asking out loud.

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