XSF Discussion - 2021-06-05


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  149. Holger emus: xmpp:jabber@conference.jabber.org?join
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  195. emus thx!
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  223. emus Ok well... but I see this is related to the jabber.org service right?
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  226. MattJ These days, mostly
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  228. emus But it was planned to be a general one?
  229. MattJ That's what it always was
  230. MattJ and there was jdev@conference.jabber.org for developers
  231. emus Well the title is a bit of missleading
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  233. MattJ We moved jdev to muc.xmpp.org in the past couple of years
  234. emus so its jdev@muc.xmpp.org
  235. MattJ Yes
  236. emus ok
  237. MattJ I'm not saying, if we want a user support room, that it has to be jabber@conference.jabber.org... I was just saying that has historically been it (but it is far less active these days than it used to be)
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  240. emus I would be fine with that, but I think the title and muc description should be changed accordingly
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  352. emus Hot from the press: The XMPP Newsletter May 2021 https://xmpp.org/2021/05/newsletter-05-may/ Going to tweet and toot now
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  359. mdosch 🎉
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  365. emus 🙂 https://fosstodon.org/web/statuses/106358107733532641
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  370. şişio Yupppi
  371. wurstsalat Nice!
  372. şişio Thanks
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  374. şişio XMPP <3
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  377. emus Many thanks to wurstsalat for writing up the XEP section more almost 1.5 years already
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  388. wurstsalat time flies!
  389. emus 😮
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  493. şişio > emus wrote: > Many thanks to wurstsalat for writing up the XEP section more almost 1.5 years already Thanks wurstsalat
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  531. goffi Hey there, I need some specs clarification. XEP-0060 `max-items` as defined at https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#subscriber-retrieve-requestrecent returns N most recents items. It we use RSM `max` limit (as defined at https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0059.html#limit) should we get the N more recent or N oldest items? ejabberd is returning N oldest items, so the result with `max-items` is not the same as with RSM `max` limit, and I've so far assumed it would be the same, but now I think ejabberd is right (`max-items` specify the order explicitly to have N most recent items, RSM doesn't). Can somebody clarify this for me?
  532. MattJ goffi, looks like max_items is specified in XEP-0060 to return the N most recent, and <max> is about limiting the results starting from the oldest, so I think your (and ejabberd's) interpretation is correct
  533. MattJ unless you combine both
  534. MattJ If you combine both, max_items='X' would limit you to X most recent items, and RSM <max>Y</max> would return the first Y of those
  535. goffi would be weird to combine both :)
  536. goffi Thank for feedback. I have a bug to fix then :)
  537. flow not sure if it would be that werid to combine both
  538. MattJ Yeah, I was just about to type that
  539. MattJ If there are 5000 items, and you want to fetch the last 1000, you obviously don't want all of those in the same stanza
  540. flow if I am not mistaken, RSM's max is just the page size, right?
  541. MattJ So you would set max_items=1000 and page through them with RSM
  542. flow if so, then a better name for that thing would probably be page-size ;)
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  545. goffi flow: MattJ: you could do that with just RSM, why using both?
  546. goffi just loop with a page size of say 50 from the end until you have 1000 items.
  547. MattJ True
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  573. goffi it seems that there is a bug in ejabberd after all, if I use empty `<before/>` to get last page, index is 0 on 167 when it should be 167 - <number of items in this page>.
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  629. emus Are there any literature / research / publication collections on XMPP?
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  636. yushyin https://www.semanticscholar.org/search?q=xmpp many?
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  638. emus Thanks, but I don't mean a search, rather like thinks we recommend if one really wants to start over in that direction. Well, listing that is also fine in general
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  640. emus why do I get to know this webiste after my studies -.-
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  643. yushyin one of the better search engine for papers, if you ask me :)
  644. emus cool I just see that Google Scholar provides the XEP sites as results if you search for xmpp etc
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  725. emus Does the editor team need support on labeling all the issues? https://github.com/xsf/xeps/issues I can offer to do so
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  770. emus https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/BxQTzJBk0HzMfJO2/9a3ca50f-c9a2-43b8-98fd-e75c8ad421b8.png
  771. emus Specifications - one of the main work we do, is placed at the websites end/bottom? 😕
  772. emus Well, it is under about XMPP but I think it should place as it own section in the top, what do you think?
  773. emus Maybe it would be also better to label it directly XMPP Extension Protocol
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