XSF Discussion - 2021-06-16


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  63. moparisthebest https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/06/14/bye-bye-travis-ci/ isn't XSF not eligible for the travis-ci free tier for the same reason?
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  65. moparisthebest XSF has commercial sponsors right?
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  111. eevvoor moparisthebest, the sponsors help with the yearly xsf meeting colocated with the FOSS, as fas as I know.
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  158. MattJ moparisthebest: correct
  159. MattJ I haven't even bothered to apply right now - last I checked their dashboard says we have, and have used, no credits
  160. MattJ Even if it's just a UI bug, their free credits should last us months at least
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  191. eevvoor MattJ, whose dashboard?
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  194. jonas’ travis-ci
  195. eevvoor autobuilds or what jonas’ ?
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  200. jonas’ I don’t quite understand the question
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  265. MattJ eevvoor, https://travis-ci.com/github/xsf
  266. MattJ So according to that we've used 174 minutes in the past month, there are supposedly 10000 free minutes with a free plan, so we have a way to go
  267. MattJ I think the answer is migrating to Github Actions whenever we can, before those minutes run out
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  293. ralphm In almost 5 years :-D
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  325. L29Ah 11:41:20]<MattJ> I think the answer is migrating to Github Actions whenever we can, before those minutes run out migrating from a FOSS solution to a proprietary incompatible spec format?
  326. MattJ L29Ah, which is the FOSS solution?
  327. L29Ah MattJ: travis
  328. MattJ How is it FOSS?
  329. L29Ah i don't understand your question; there are sources in their github, the license is specified as MIT in wikipedia
  330. MattJ So I see, Wikipedia states "The source is technically free software"
  331. MattJ Self-hosting isn't an option for us, especially since this looks like it is not made to be easily self-hosted
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  333. MattJ and I'm not aware of any other hosted Travis offerings
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  347. flow I'd welcome making gitlab the primary
  348. flow but before we do nothing at all, we should move away from travis, and if it means github actions
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  356. MattJ As discussed, there's currently no rush... I would rather only migrate once
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  358. flow MattJ, do we have travis credits now? IIRC last time my PR wasn't CIed by travis due to missing credits
  359. MattJ Which PR?
  360. MattJ I don't see any PRs from you on relevant repos since February
  361. flow IIRC that one wasn't travis'ed https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1063
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  363. flow ahh, but that was not due credits
  364. flow https://travis-ci.org/github/xsf/xeps/builds/772488939#L1746
  365. flow but still, that does not shed a good light on travis, right?
  366. MattJ Right, Docker
  367. flow if they are reated limited by docker.com
  368. MattJ This is a problem with Docker Hub, I guess authentication should be added to the job
  369. MattJ I did request an open-source sponsorship from Docker, I don't think I've heard back yet
  370. MattJ But that's not really related to this
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  372. flow well, it is related to travis currently (sometimes?) not being able to CI your PRs
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  375. MattJ No, it's not
  376. MattJ iirc that's simply a distinction between whether you're authenticating to Docker Hub, or pulling over an unauthenticated connection
  377. MattJ Unauthenticated pulls now have strict rate limits, which doesn't go well with CI systems obviously
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  379. flow I was referring to travis in the broadest sense, not just the service. If I understood you correctly, then we could adjust our travis configuration (or something) and it would work again
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  382. flow but it is not clear to me if this requires an open-source sponsorhip from Docker or something else
  383. MattJ No, as I said, the open-source sponsorship from Docker is unrelated to this issue
  384. MattJ I just correlated the two things in my mind, I shouldn't have mentioned it :)
  385. flow ok, but then we have to add some (our?) docker hub credentials somewhere in the travis file to not run into this rate limit, right?
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  387. MattJ Likely there is a way in Travis to configure secrets
  388. flow hmm, nno, travis file sounds wrong, cause secret
  389. flow hmm, no, travis file sounds wrong, cause secret
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  396. jonas’ FWIW, how gitlab solved that issue is that they have a local docker image proxy you can use
  397. jonas’ I am sure github actions has something similar, travis may too
  398. jonas’ may just need extra configuration (and the credentials for that would be handed into the job or so)
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  411. flow Don't docker pull through cachces usually simply have an IP based allowlist?
  412. flow and they are configured in the docker daemon json, so outside of the typical travis-ci.yml scope
  413. jonas’ flow, I work with the gitlab stuff daily. It hands you tokens.
  414. flow our gitlab setup uses our docker pull through cache via configuring it in the docker daemon's json configuration file, no tokens involved
  415. flow and I would expect that gitlab/travis simply would do the same, if they run their own docker cache, as it does not require any configuration from the users
  416. flow ofc i could be wrong
  417. flow in any case, the gitlab runner is not aware of the docker cache
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  419. flow (at least in the setup i know)
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  422. jonas’ ah, the dependency proxy things seems to be token-less now. I recall you had to docker login into it in the beginning, maybe they changed that.
  423. jonas’ or, more realistically, the runner sets it up on its own
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  447. Alex I have created the Q3 application page here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2021
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  489. mathieui Thanks Alex
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  508. jonas’ dwd, council?
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  870. şişio On the Element my messages are lost...
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  873. şişio XMPP <3
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  879. eevvoor XMPP is also very good at loosing messages, şişio‎ 🤣️.
  880. eevvoor Just wait and enjoy.
  881. eevvoor And then hunt the bug.
  882. şişio :) Come dm
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