XSF Discussion - 2021-07-09


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  157. Maranda > wuuko: in matrix every server participating in a groupchat gets a copy of entire chat history including joins, parts, nick changes s/groupchat/room/ there's no semantical difference between a chat and a groupchat
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  328. Zash Does anyone recall when XEP-0163 Version 1.2 went trough council (as I assume it would have) and why it changed a MUST in the feature discovery procedure.
  329. Zash Does anyone recall when XEP-0163 Version 1.2 went trough council (as I assume it would have) and why it changed a MUST in the feature discovery procedure?
  330. Zash I found some mention of it and pubsub in 2010 council logs, but haven't found a vote or reasoning yet.
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  332. Zash https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0163-1.1.html#disco says "MUST ... request to the server" https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0163-1.2.1.html#support says "MUST ... to its own bare JID"
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  467. moparisthebest I've just been informed *again* by a senior networking guy that long-lived TCP connections cannot be expected to work across the internet, thought everyone here should know... -.-
  468. MattJ Ok, thanks. Maybe we should inform the IETF too.
  469. moparisthebest my wild guess is this comes from thinking HTTP is the only protocol that exists? but even then, websockets, polling, large downloads etc ? makes no sense to me
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  482. qy moparisthebest: Probably from addresses changing and invalidating routes
  483. qy Need a roaming protocol over that
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  485. moparisthebest this is actually because they have smart networking appliance firewall things that detect and kill long-running TCP connections for... who knows what reasons ?
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  493. qy Ah
  494. qy Beautiful
  495. qy Gotta free up the bandwidth
  496. qy Every electron counts
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  706. emus Hello, are their any Tigase admins here for the public xmpp server(s) ?
  707. jonas’ emus: some hang out in operators@
  708. emus ah great - thanks!
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