XSF Discussion - 2021-07-09

> wuuko: in matrix every server participating in a groupchat gets a copy of entire chat history including joins, parts, nick changes s/groupchat/room/ there's no semantical difference between a chat and a groupchat

Does anyone recall when XEP-0163 Version 1.2 went trough council (as I assume it would have) and why it changed a MUST in the feature discovery procedure? ✏

I found some mention of it and pubsub in 2010 council logs, but haven't found a vote or reasoning yet.

https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0163-1.1.html#disco says "MUST ... request to the server" https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0163-1.2.1.html#support says "MUST ... to its own bare JID"

I've just been informed *again* by a senior networking guy that long-lived TCP connections cannot be expected to work across the internet, thought everyone here should know... -.-

Ok, thanks. Maybe we should inform the IETF too.

my wild guess is this comes from thinking HTTP is the only protocol that exists? but even then, websockets, polling, large downloads etc ? makes no sense to me

moparisthebest: Probably from addresses changing and invalidating routes

Need a roaming protocol over that

this is actually because they have smart networking appliance firewall things that detect and kill long-running TCP connections for... who knows what reasons ?

Ah

Beautiful

Gotta free up the bandwidth

Every electron counts

Hello, are their any Tigase admins here for the public xmpp server(s) ?

emus: some hang out in operators@

ah great - thanks!