XSF Discussion - 2021-07-15

I wonder if we will have a board meeting today?

Ralphm?

I'm around. We'll see at roll call

0. Welcome

Who do we have, what do you bring?

also hi

MattJ, dwd, arc

Here

Hiya

Assuming arc will drop in :-D

Any items for today's agenda?

Only wondering if it's time to do the Last Call on the CoC.

Please review the proposed fiscal policy stuff.

Just a reminder.

ok

1. Minute taker

I think we're at arc for that.

Yup

2. CoC

dwd: do you feel it ready for last call?

Well, actually probably not; I have a few things to sort out that I've mentioned on list, which I'll do tomorrow. But we (Board) should probably get our comments in now.

And then we vote on a Last Call next week?

Makes sense

Any other comments?

I am fine with taking another week

ok

2. Fiscal Policy

Sam?

There's a PR; sorry, at work and can't dig it up.

https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/915/files

Also a pad I've sent a few times with some thoughts/proposals. I'm not sure what to do to move the fiscal hosting stuff forward other than keep asking 🙂

It's short, I'd be happy if we can approve it during this meeting (rather than defer another week)

It looks good to me.

As does the pad

My only question is whether mandating open source is quite right - I'm not suggesting we bankroll non-open-source software, rather I'm concerned that orgs doing non-software, like free hosting or something, would be blocked.

Good point. Feel free to mess with the wording.

But this is an expansion to, rather than restriction of, what's there so I'm fine with doing as Sam has written "for now", with a view to expanding later.

Or we could just take that under the "obviously that's fine and we won't be too picky as long as it's in the spirit of the thing"

Which could be covered by "and any organisation with permission from the Board" or something.

But as I say, we can deal with that later if we want to get on with it.

Sounds good to me

I think if such a project came along, they would probably raise this issue

But noting that Board approval would be enough, would be enough

Right. The pad suggests linking to a repo, which kind of implies "source available". Board can still extend this to projects that don't strictly match the description.

I'm pretty sure the open collective does charge a fee, or at least a cut of donations?

arc: they charge a percentage of what we charge. If we charge 0% so do they

Ah. Ok

\o/

I would also use the word primarily. As in primarily focused on the development of Open Source software

And further, in order to head off edge cases such as SaS, etc, that their purposes are charitable and educational under the definition by IRS 501c3

I would be happy to send a PR

That seems very US-centric, arc :-D

XSF is Incorporated in the US.

Hence the :-D

Ah, ok. Yeah if we were to serve as a fiscal sponsor for a organization conducting non 501c3 purposes it might put our 501c3 in jeopardy. Especially UBI

Ok then. Awaiting a PR on the PR

(I think)

Can you and Sam work together so we have a thing to put the rubber stamp on?

Yeah, I'm fine with 501c3 compatibility requirements

I think Board's intent is clear and we have consensus.

Unrelated business income is allowed but not as a primary purpose. And that should really never affect open source projects which are generally all volunteer, because "volunteer workforce" is a specific exception to UBI. So basically any fundraiser that is conducted entirely by volunteers vs staff is automatically exempt

3. AOB

AOB?

NOAOB.

4. Date of Next

+1W

Yay

5. Close

I'm unavailable next week

Thanks all!

Noted, MattJ

But you can meet without me (or not) :)

Thanks!