XSF Discussion - 2021-07-15


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  372. arc I wonder if we will have a board meeting today?
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  388. arc Ralphm?
  389. ralphm I'm around. We'll see at roll call
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  400. ralphm bangs gavel
  401. ralphm 0. Welcome
  402. ralphm Who do we have, what do you bring?
  403. ralphm also hi
  404. ralphm MattJ, dwd, arc
  405. MattJ Here
  406. dwd Hiya
  407. ralphm Assuming arc will drop in :-D
  408. ralphm Any items for today's agenda?
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  411. dwd Only wondering if it's time to do the Last Call on the CoC.
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  413. Sam Please review the proposed fiscal policy stuff.
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  415. Sam Just a reminder.
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  419. ralphm ok
  420. ralphm 1. Minute taker
  421. ralphm I think we're at arc for that.
  422. arc Yup
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  424. ralphm 2. CoC
  425. ralphm dwd: do you feel it ready for last call?
  426. dwd Well, actually probably not; I have a few things to sort out that I've mentioned on list, which I'll do tomorrow. But we (Board) should probably get our comments in now.
  427. dwd And then we vote on a Last Call next week?
  428. ralphm Makes sense
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  430. ralphm Any other comments?
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  432. arc I am fine with taking another week
  433. ralphm ok
  434. ralphm 2. Fiscal Policy
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  436. ralphm Sam?
  437. Sam There's a PR; sorry, at work and can't dig it up.
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  440. MattJ https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/915/files
  441. Sam Also a pad I've sent a few times with some thoughts/proposals. I'm not sure what to do to move the fiscal hosting stuff forward other than keep asking πŸ™‚
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  444. MattJ It's short, I'd be happy if we can approve it during this meeting (rather than defer another week)
  445. ralphm It looks good to me.
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  447. ralphm As does the pad
  448. dwd My only question is whether mandating open source is quite right - I'm not suggesting we bankroll non-open-source software, rather I'm concerned that orgs doing non-software, like free hosting or something, would be blocked.
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  450. Sam Good point. Feel free to mess with the wording.
  451. dwd But this is an expansion to, rather than restriction of, what's there so I'm fine with doing as Sam has written "for now", with a view to expanding later.
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  454. Sam Or we could just take that under the "obviously that's fine and we won't be too picky as long as it's in the spirit of the thing"
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  457. dwd Which could be covered by "and any organisation with permission from the Board" or something.
  458. dwd But as I say, we can deal with that later if we want to get on with it.
  459. MattJ Sounds good to me
  460. MattJ I think if such a project came along, they would probably raise this issue
  461. MattJ But noting that Board approval would be enough, would be enough
  462. ralphm Right. The pad suggests linking to a repo, which kind of implies "source available". Board can still extend this to projects that don't strictly match the description.
  463. arc I'm pretty sure the open collective does charge a fee, or at least a cut of donations?
  464. Sam arc: they charge a percentage of what we charge. If we charge 0% so do they
  465. arc Ah. Ok
  466. ralphm \o/
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  468. arc I would also use the word primarily. As in primarily focused on the development of Open Source software
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  471. arc And further, in order to head off edge cases such as SaS, etc, that their purposes are charitable and educational under the definition by IRS 501c3
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  473. arc I would be happy to send a PR
  474. ralphm That seems very US-centric, arc :-D
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  476. arc XSF is Incorporated in the US.
  477. ralphm Hence the :-D
  478. arc Ah, ok. Yeah if we were to serve as a fiscal sponsor for a organization conducting non 501c3 purposes it might put our 501c3 in jeopardy. Especially UBI
  479. ralphm Ok then. Awaiting a PR on the PR
  480. ralphm (I think)
  481. ralphm Can you and Sam work together so we have a thing to put the rubber stamp on?
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  484. MattJ Yeah, I'm fine with 501c3 compatibility requirements
  485. ralphm I think Board's intent is clear and we have consensus.
  486. arc Unrelated business income is allowed but not as a primary purpose. And that should really never affect open source projects which are generally all volunteer, because "volunteer workforce" is a specific exception to UBI. So basically any fundraiser that is conducted entirely by volunteers vs staff is automatically exempt
  487. ralphm nods
  488. ralphm 3. AOB
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  490. ralphm AOB?
  491. dwd NOAOB.
  492. ralphm 4. Date of Next
  493. ralphm +1W
  494. arc Yay
  495. ralphm 5. Close
  496. MattJ I'm unavailable next week
  497. ralphm Thanks all!
  498. ralphm Noted, MattJ
  499. MattJ But you can meet without me (or not) :)
  500. ralphm bangs gavel
  501. MattJ Thanks!
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