XSF Discussion - 2021-08-04

  1. DebXWoody

    vanitasvitae: https://www.alternate.de/Fairphone/3plus-64GB-Handy/html/productRatings/1671595 😁 (XMPP Marketing) 🤗

  2. Wojtek

    @jonas’ what's the battery life on that phone?

  3. jonas’


  4. jonas’

    Wojtek, it used to be 4d of my typical use when I had virtually no apps on it ^

  5. jonas’

    (from a "benchmark" I did early on)

  6. jonas’

    (I think this also tells me that I might need to look into which CSI modules I'm using on my xmppd :)

  7. jonas’

    (I think this also tells me that I might need to look into which CSI modules I'm using on my xmppd :))

  8. jonas’

    My perception is that this has changed slightly, but the current forecast is at ~3d battery life, so maybe my use simply has changed

  9. Wojtek

    that's quite nice!

  10. emus

    not bad

  11. mdosch

    My klte survives barely a day if I use it. 😥

  12. emus

    My HTC One M7 barely half a day. I have created a professional Flight-Mode + Battery Saving workflow already 🙂

  13. MattJ

    Re. QUIC: https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/04/dissecting_performance_of_production_quic/

  14. moparisthebest

    they only tested raw throughput? boring

  15. moparisthebest

    roaming across networks, multiple parallel streams without head-of-line-blocking over one connection etc, those are the interesting bits

  16. moparisthebest

    on that topic though, more programming and standards work needs done of course, but moparisthe.best has been working over QUIC for awhile now _xmppq-server._udp.moparisthe.best / _xmppq-client._udp.moparisthe.best

  17. wgreenhouse

    moparisthebest: which clients support c2s over QUIC? based on what you're saying, it sounds like the biggest wins would be for mobile clients

  18. moparisthebest

    any servers/clients that connect through xmpp-proxy at the moment

  19. wgreenhouse


  20. moparisthebest

    but yes, indeed "staying connected across network changes" is a huge win for mobile clients

  21. wgreenhouse

    moparisthebest: do you need testers e.g. running xmpp-proxy on termux with conversations connected to localhost?

  22. wgreenhouse

    happy to try that out

  23. moparisthebest

    client-wise I've only tested gajim so far, because dino/conversations aren't happy connecting without TLS :) but can discuss it further here: xmpp:xmpp-proxy@chat.moparisthe.best?join

  24. Sam

    "remote server timeout" attempting to join that room

  25. mdosch


  26. Sam

    "What is xmpp-proxy" is what I was going to ask :)

  27. Zash

    Need to use it to join?

  28. Zash

    Is it by any chance hiding the TLS session from the server, so it can't validate the certificate, explaining why it's doing Dialback?

  29. moparisthebest

    yea maybe I shouldn't host the room on my test server hehe , it's https://github.com/moparisthebest/xmpp-proxy , and yea only dialback is supported at the moment

  30. Zash

    and only legacy IP?

  31. moparisthebest

    ah, yep, but that's just due to a missing AAAA record so should be an easy fix at least

  32. Zash

    No, I mean in the other direction

  33. Zash

    I'm IPv6-only and observe no incoming connection at all.

  34. Zash

    | ipv6-only.badxmpp.eu | -> chat.moparisthe.best [s2sout_unauthed7f9b88194d80] (authenticated) (encrypted) | There are 1 queued outgoing stanzas for this connection | Dialback has been requested, but no result received

  35. moparisthebest

    it *should* work, though it tries IPv4 first

  36. guus.der.kinderen

    > guus.der.kinderen: hello guus - do you know what license this is? > https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/jobs-design-of-badges-for-different-xmpp-compliance-levels/981 I do not know.

  37. emus

    guus.der.kinderen: ok thx But do you have the contact?

  38. emus

    I really like their active tendering https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/04/tender-to-implement-support-for-editing-and-creation-of-a-dynamic-diagram-feature-202108-02/

  39. guus.der.kinderen

    What you quoted was the last contact I had.