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emus
Ok, thanks
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emus
guus.der.kinderen: but you mean the person never came back to you nor have replied to anything even you have their contact?
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guus.der.kinderen
emus: Correct. I'm not sure I had contact information other than that forum.
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guus.der.kinderen
In any case, I didn't follow up, not did he contact me.
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emus
Ok, thanks for the heads up. But would it be possible to reopen the thread qnd ask again?
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MattJ
I may have contact details, they used to be an active community member. They helped develop a previous version of the website... 🙂
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emus
MattJ: That would be really great!
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guus.der.kinderen
I don't think I can reopen that thread? I guess anyone can reach out to that person. It doesn't have to be me?
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emus
I thought because the thread is closed
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Bung
Test
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georgeorwell
Is it still possible to read the book XMPP: The Definitive Guide today, or is it hopelessly out of date? 12 years is a long time, especially regarding the developement of XMPP in the last few years.
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edhelas
I think it's like 1984, the main story is still interesting and applicable today
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georgeorwell
haha ok thx
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Kev
I think (disclaimer: author) pretty much everything that’s in there is still valid, but it obviously doesn’t cover the newer stuff that’s been added. The core of XMPP is still the same as it’s always been though.
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edhelas
XMPP is having lots of new cool stuff, such as MIX
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moparisthebest
is it though...
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Zash
We have Carbons and MAM
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moparisthebest
edhelas, https://www.moparisthebest.com/mix/
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moparisthebest
though to be fair I heard tigase is doing something there
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Kev
There are several implementations AFAIK.
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Zash
Someone was working on one for Prosody too
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Kev
ejabberd had one of the early drafts, I think. Tigase has a current one. Openfire had one in the middle.
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edhelas
moparisthebest Soon™
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jonas’
Kev, you moved! now you get reminded about https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1047
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Kev
jonas’ well aren’t I a lucky boy?
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jonas’
you are! :)
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Zash
Mmmm, message retractions and pubsub retractions?
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Kev
I’m not convinced trying to fit the square 424 into a round mix hole is sensible, given how far off suitable 424 is. I’ll try to do this now before I get distracted again.
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mathieui
Seconding Kev, the book covers the basics and most of the fundamentals are pretty much the same as explained in there
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georgeorwell
I already asked about a week ago and got two really cool ideas for a topic, but maybe someone has other suggestions: I am looking for a topic for a bachelor thesis with which I can support XMPP. Any ideas?
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Kev
Depends what your interest is really.
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moparisthebest
as long as it has something roughly to do with passing messages
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Kev
Do you want novel UX around chat? Do you want IoT? Do you want to develop a novel clustering technique? A way to cluster MUC rooms across services that’s more complete than FMUC?
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MattJ
Spam and abuse prevention in decentralized networks :)
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MattJ
Finally someone who can give us a solution for this
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Kev
MattJ: Pull the plug, problem solved :)
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MattJ
I did, and when I plugged it back in I had 20 more spam messages than I did before
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georgeorwell
Kev, this is the standard question to which, unfortunately, I have no proper answer.
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MattJ
(actually I haven't received any myself for some time... I shouldn't joke about it)
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Kev
georgeorwell: How to minimise client state sync on login, when 198 resumption has expired (or is not available) is another interesting one.
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Kev
Develop a JMAP-like mapping for XMPP.
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Kev
The options are endless :)
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Kev
jonas’:I *hate* saying ‘no’ to people on PRs in this sort of situation :(
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georgeorwell
thx for the ideas, Kev! I'll take a closer look at some of your suggestions.
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Daniel
Personally I've always wanted to do something with measuring battery consumption
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Daniel
And the effects of Csi etc
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Daniel
But that's probably extremely hard
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Kev
Daniel: But wouldn’t it be interesting if you didn’t need CSI at all because reconnect was cheap? :)
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Daniel
Maybe... However if you have jmap for xmpp the push still needs to come from somewhere. I'm currently not sure if jmap's eventsource is more effective than xmpp's maintaining of the TCP connection/stream
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Daniel
But comparing that could also be a topic for a bachelor thesis
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Kev
I wasn’t thinking of jmap particularly for the ‘cheap reconnect’ stuff.
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jonas’
> jonas’:I *hate* saying ‘no’ to people on PRs in this sort of situation :( Kev: why did you not say no in the first place? Or maybe bring it to the list
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Kev
Because I only just reviewed it?
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Kev
Although the remaining issues were things I brought up in the first review too.
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arc
Who do we have this morning?
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MattJ
Wow, that came around fast
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arc
Right?
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MattJ
😐
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arc
So is it just the two of us this week?
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Kev
I don’t even remember if exactly 50% of board is quorate.
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arc
I wasn't suggesting that we actually have a meeting with just two people.
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Kev
I would have, if it was me and I knew there was quorum. Why else would I have gone into management but enjoying subjecting people to meetings? :D
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arc
Would you like to join the board? We do have a vacant seat!
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moparisthebest
> Why else would I have gone into management but enjoying subjecting people to meetings? :D finally... a manager admits it
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arc
It is a super fun to spend a Thursday morning, or Thursday evening I guess from your perspective
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Kev
I do sometimes wonder if I have a higher attendance at Board meetings than an average of all Board members, sometimes :)
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arc
I think you do
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arc
I have only missed two board meetings this year so I think I have the highest attendance? And I'm pretty sure you were also at most of them
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Kev
Sadly, for the sake of my mental health I need to not take on more responsibilities. I already let too many things slip.
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Sam
Weekly reminder for someone on board to provide feedback on financial things :)