XSF Discussion - 2021-10-04


  1. Sam

    Hi all! Reminder that the XMPP office hours are tomorrow! I'll be showing off the new Open Collective and talking about the XSF's new role as a fiscal host if anyone is interested: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours

  2. phryk

    fiscal host?

  3. Sam

    Come tomorrow to find out :)

  4. Sam

    (just kidding, you can also find more information here: https://xmpp.org/2021/09/the-xsf-as-a-fiscal-host/)

  5. Ge0rG

    jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/874 can be merged now, also what about LCs for 0379, 0401 and 0445?

  6. jonas’

    Ge0rG, is it tuesday already?

  7. Ge0rG

    jonas’: damn

  8. Ge0rG

    for a brief moment I thought it was, but it isn't.

  9. Ge0rG

    that said, somebody ignored my calendar and forced me into a phone conference on Wednesday at the Council time, so I probably will have to skip this week

  10. MattJ

    What about 353?

  11. MattJ

    I'm referring to it a lot at the moment, and it annoys me that I have to tick 'Deferred' to be able to Ctrl+F it, so I consider that a good reason to advance it

  12. Ge0rG

    it's also mandatory for Core A/V Compliance

  13. Zash

    It has >2 implementations and I don't remember any loud complaints. !summon fippo & stpeter

  14. Daniel

    I think there is some unaddressed feedback

  15. Daniel

    IIRC at least two implementations agree and diverge in behavior

  16. Zash

    Ah, found https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-April/037229.html

  17. Daniel

    Plus the older feedback from the xabber people (although I don't agree with the tone) that the xep needs a "is your proposal still valid" mechanism might be valid

  18. Daniel

    Conversations doesn't need it but I can foresee a situation where we might need it.

  19. Zash

    Not seeing any response from the authors 😕

  20. Daniel

    > Plus the older feedback from the xabber people (although I don't agree with the tone) that the xep needs a "is your proposal still valid" mechanism might be valid Which is super annoying because it makes the xep way more complex

  21. Ge0rG

    Wouldn't it suffice to have a carbon of the hangup from the sender or the accept / reject from the recipient?

  22. emus

    https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/qm3EyZiv47xU3HAG/266bd8a8-f5ad-4727-a93d-6e36d69c75ca.png

  23. me9

    emus: What's the y axis?

  24. emus

    I think search requests

  25. me9

    But what's the number? Incomplete graph.

  26. Zash

    It shows how everyone who cares about the nice things XMPP gives you moved away from Google 😉

  27. emus

    > The values indicate the search interest relative to the highest point in the chart for the selected region in the specified period. The value 100 represents the highest popularity of this search term. The value 50 means that the term is half as popular and the value 0 means that there was not enough data for this term.

  28. emus

    My search was actually regarding the question of "xmpp" or "jabber" out of interest

  29. me9

    Ah. It would be interesting to see the popularity in the amount of clicks/searches/whatever.