XSF Discussion - 2021-10-05

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12:47:27 Ge0rG jonas’: today it's Tuesday.
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15:40:59 emus Office Hours (overview of fiscal hosting/open collective) starting in ~20 minutes: https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv
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16:03:06 Sam Starting now (ish)! Please join!
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16:42:38 emus Thanks for the good talk today Sam. Are you going to upload? Or at least have it accessible via the platform you run there?
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16:42:53 emus We also found one or the other topic we need to discuss and clarify
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16:44:33 Sam I'm looking into the "can you also accept donations through the XSF and a different way right now". I think the answer is "legally, 'yes', but the XSF should probably restrict it in our terms"
16:44:52 Sam (since it's hard for us to make sure you're not laundering money or something if we don't have control over your entire budget)
16:45:26 Sam I'll read through the Open Collective Foundation fiscal host rules and see what they do
16:45:55 emus Yes, but what I mean is: Projct ABC has also donations through Github Sponsors or LiberaPay for example (or direct money transfer) So they would need to close these accounts?
16:46:34 emus I dont want these to be managed by the XSF, just asking if they can still have other ways to receive donations.
16:47:10 Sam My guess is that we should have something in our rules saying that you'd need to close those accounts, but I'm not sure yet.
16:47:37 emus ok
16:50:25 Sam Oh, the OCF (another fiscal host that's very well established) says it's fine to fundraise on the internet, but if you do it in real life you have to let them know so that they can make sure legal regulations are being followed
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16:52:47 Sam Oh, nevermind, they do allow you to raise funds outside of the Open Collective, but you have to transfer them to the open collective budget afterwards
16:52:55 Sam Which seems fine. Who wants their budget spread over multiple places anyways?
16:53:22 Sam That seems like a reasonable thing to add to our terms of service too
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16:55:12 emus 👍️
16:55:37 emus Sam, maybe we should have a bit of FAQ in the fiscal host page
16:55:41 emus or open collective
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17:03:40 Sam I'm drafting some new language and will submit it to the board; really we should have a lawyer go over all of this or copy an existing agreement, but it's probably "good enough" and can be improved and modified if any problems arise or if the host starts growing to large sums of money where it would be much more important to dot all our i's and cross the t's
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17:05:38 emus Memorandum of understanding could also be of help to prevent issues
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20:30:25 emus *The XMPP Newsletter September 2021* https://xmpp.org/2021/10/the-xmpp-newsletter-september-2021/ Have a good time and enjoy reading! 🗞️🍵️ ☺️
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20:35:29 moparisthebest thanks once again emus !!!
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20:36:56 emus thank you mopar - happy if it gets appreciated 🙂 But there are many contributors each months!
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20:43:09 emus Apart from the newsletter, thanks to MattJ making a new build also the latest changes to the website are online now: https://xmpp.org/about/publications/ there is some more, but we need to ask wurstsalat - he has push a lot here. This is great work!
20:46:56 emus History of compliance suites: https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites/
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20:47:46 emus Specification list updated: https://xmpp.org/extensions/ thanks to zash
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22:10:22 emus FYI https://hopin.com/events/enterprise-open-source-event#schedule
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22:24:11 mjk Yaay, we have omemo:2. Go xmpp!
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