XSF Discussion - 2021-10-06


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  42. Tim

    I'm aware of the `/me` XEP; are there any others that give special meaning to messages that begin with `/`?

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  46. Tim

    I'm considering a bot whose commands all begin with `/` (because early testing revealed that some mobile phone keyboards make it difficult to type `!` without a following space), and I'm wondering if it's a bad idea for any reason.

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  82. Menel

    Some clients use / to use internal commands I think.. that would be confusing Tim

  83. Ellenor Malik

    > Menel wrote: > Some clients use / to use internal commands I think.. that would be confusing Tim Like IRC

  84. Menel

    Or profantiy

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  91. Tim

    Thanks Menel and Ellenor Malik, that's useful to know. I wonder if there are any bot command prefixes other than `!` in common use. Or, better yet, an XEP with recommended bot command conventions.

  92. Ellenor Malik

    Menel: no, I was comparing /commands to the usage of the same syntax in the IRC program

  93. Ellenor Malik

    Menel: no, I was comparing /commands to the usage of the same syntax in programs speaking the IRC protocol

  94. Menel

    In the operator room someone uses `@` But just be creative. . Not everything need a xep IMHO.

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  97. Tim

    I guess `#` might be suitable.

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  100. Menel

    Now I wonder with what keyboard # is better then ! πŸ˜ƒ

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  102. Tim

    I'll check with my testers, but on-screen predictive keyboards that insert a space after `!` were the problem. Is `#` difficult on common non-US keyboards?

  103. Menel

    Its certanly harder then !, on my mobile too..

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  107. Tim

    I guess I could just get the bot to ignore spaces after the `!`.

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  116. Ge0rG

    That's probably the best idea. "!" is rather common. Also consider that keyboards will often uppercase the following word

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  135. Tim

    Yeah, I've already made it case-insensitive.

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  209. mdosch

    > Thanks Menel and Ellenor Malik, that's useful to know. I wonder if there are any bot command prefixes other than `!` in common use. Or, better yet, an XEP with recommended bot command conventions. I wrote a bot which only reacts to mentions, like 'bot* command'

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  225. christian

    I have a python prog running on the server, what is the best way to send the output to a encryped group?

  226. mjk

    One more data point in favor of `!`: Simple Keyboard on android has it right on the main page in many (all?) layouts, without even nedding to long-press anything.

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  228. mjk

    One more data point in favor of `!`: Simple Keyboard on android has it right on the main page in many (all?) layouts, without even needing to long-press anything.

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  234. mdosch

    > I have a python prog running on the server, what is the best way to send the output to a encryped group? The libervia CLI tool supports omemo afaik.

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  254. Tim

    > I wrote a bot which only reacts to mentions, like 'bot* command' In my case, some of the commands have the effect of taking turns in a game, and it would be strange to address them all to the bot (even though the bot reacts to them).

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  268. Zash

    Tim: Some clients do have their own built in /-commands, which might interfere with your bot commands if you use that as prefix

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  276. Tim

    It sounds like the best plan in my case is to try `!` plus optional whitespace as the prefix.

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  289. MattJ

    I've also seen '.' used

  290. MattJ

    It's easily accessible on most mobile keyboards, and generally doesn't start a real message

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  292. edhelas

    fun fact, /me italic on discord is replaced with __italic__

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  334. emus

    Hello, I would like to start the discussion with what mail that many responsibles here have access to in the end we should register our social accounts to. I treat the protonmail as gone. Another question us how to convince mastodon to replace it for us

  335. emus

    I dont know if better to discuss on members@

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  338. MattJ

    I still don't understand why you say protonmail is gone. I thought SouL had access.

  339. MattJ

    And you were unable to access the fosstodon account, but that was resolved?

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  346. emus

    MattJ: the password of the email acvount does not work anymore

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  377. MattJ

    When did it stop working?

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  385. emus

    Dont know. I never tried before a ~week ago

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  388. MattJ

    and SouL has confirmed his password does not work?

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  391. emus

    No, but he is not replying

  392. emus

    he said he wanted to reach out to you

  393. MattJ

    Okay, then I think we should just wait

  394. emus

    but I think its worth thinking about this in general and not rely on some random protonmail

  395. MattJ

    You're not going to trick me into xmpp.org email hosting ;)

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  397. emus

    no, I got that

  398. MattJ

    I'm not going to say we'd never do such a thing, but believe me a real email provider is a better choice right now

  399. emus

    but protonmail or nothing we really have discussed baiut

  400. emus

    yes thats what I mean

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  402. MattJ

    and you don't consider protonmail a real email provider?

  403. emus

    Dunno, I just heard they are advertising they are "secure and private", but do we trust in this or do we want to have it hosted there?

  404. emus

    I mean in general. where do we want to have this hosted?

  405. MattJ

    They're pretty well known, I'm happy with the choice. There are others I'd be just as happy with, but I don't see a pressing need to switch.

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  408. emus

    ok, any other comments on this? then lets be hope soul has different credentials than I do

  409. MattJ

    No other comment. I don't see a problem. If SouL confirms he can no longer access the account, we will need to figure something out. I'm not going to enter panic mode until then.

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  427. MattJ

    Editor question: is updating registries just impossible right now?

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  433. flow

    I think updating the xsf registry git should be possible, not sure if the generated html is automatically updated or if someone knows how to update it manually

  434. MattJ

    Good point

  435. MattJ

    I guess I can just PR the source and see what happens :)

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  437. Ge0rG

    IIRC there is no technical process in place to convert the repository changes into HTML updates

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  506. jonas’

    MattJ, yes

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  508. jonas’

    MattJ, we don't process registry PRs at all currently until someone figures out the build/publishing

  509. MattJ

    I submitted it anyway, so my conscience is clear :)

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