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ralphm 15:53:12
emus: what do you mean?
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ralphm 15:59:25
Still in a work meeting
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arc 16:00:08
Good morning
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Sam 16:02:28
Hi all, please consider discussing the fiscal hosting applicant I emailed board@ about, thanks.
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wurstsalat 16:07:20
ralphm, I think emus is asking if your xmpp artworks are available somewhere for comm-team :)
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arc 16:20:05
It does not seem like we're having a board meeting this morning
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MattJ 16:27:51
I'm here, I just realised I didn't say so :)
MattJ 16:28:23
I think I read ralphm's message as implying "be there in a minute", but I don't think that's what he meant
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arc 16:35:47
Yeah after around 9:15 I assume we're not going to have a meeting that day
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Sam 17:55:51
Hi all; can I at least get an acknowledgement from the board that any of my messages have been seen, even if you're not going to discuss it yet? I'm starting to think something is just going on with my XMPP setup and/or email
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MattJ 17:56:58
I've seen them, and I haven't seen any replies. My previous emails to the board list have also been unanswered, so... valid question :)
Sam 17:57:11
Thanks, I appreciate it
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MattJ 17:58:23
This board term has been rather unsuccessful at meetings (not that the previous one was great, though it picked up towards the end). Partly I'm sure that's because we're one down due to resignation, but... yeah
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MattJ 17:58:46
I would rather lower expectations by switching to monthly, if it means people would actually turn up
Sam 17:58:52
One down should make scheduling easier :)
Sam 17:59:08
But yes, if it makes XSF business actually get done I'm all for it.
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MattJ 17:59:31
It's partly a schedule issue, due to timezones, this was nobody's favourite time slot
MattJ 17:59:38
Just the least worst
MattJ 17:59:59
But if we're going to say we meet at this time, we should meet at this time or accept the fact that we don't
MattJ 18:00:42
Weekly meetings are pretty frequent for a board in any case (but then a lot of things get delegated to us as a group)
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MattJ 18:00:55
Random website PRs get blocked on us, etc.
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MattJ 18:01:22
It might make sense to maybe delegate some specific responsibilities to individuals
MattJ 18:02:18
Obviously that requires a raised level of trust in those individuals, but if done sensibly and selectively, it might work for certain things
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MattJ 18:02:37
This is our first applicant for fiscal hosting, so I think it would be good to do that as a group
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MattJ 18:03:23
But e.g. once we build up a checklist of things we consider in these applications, I don't think it would hurt for an individual to run through that checklist and approve things without waiting for a meeting
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Sam 18:03:33
I tend to agree, but there's something to be said for promptness too. If we can't even agree in a timely manner that they should or should not be hosted by the XSF I can't imagine how we'd actually pay out their money or something, which I suspect would make others not want to use the XSF's service.
MattJ 18:03:35
I don't see how else to fix this bottleneck
Sam 18:03:55
(but yes, this first one in particular will need some thought as the criteria are figured out)
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Sam 18:06:03
I guess I'll follow up with the applicant and let them know it may be a while
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Sam 18:06:10
Silence is probably the worst thing we could do.
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theTedd 18:10:40
Sam, probably the best way to get this done is through disagreement: instead of waiting for a group to agree upon a good list, just rough out a list, say "this is it", and then ammend according to disagreements ;)
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Sam 18:13:34
That's fine, but if the group in question can't meet at all there's not much point
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theTedd 18:15:59
once there's a checklist then it should be a simple box-checking exercise, so meetings wouldn't strictly be necessary
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emus 18:57:40
> wurstsalat wrote: > ralphm, I think emus is asking if your xmpp artworks are available somewhere for comm-team :) yes thanks
emus 18:58:06
ralphm:
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