XSF Discussion - 2021-10-28


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  360. jonas’ Ge0rG, seen the mail on standards@ regarding CS-2022?
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  364. Ge0rG jonas’: thanks!
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  367. Ge0rG My first impression is that I don't like the removal of "Core", and that's actually a non-problem because nobody but the weirdest nerds will write "Core Core IM" anyway.
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  378. ralphm 0. Welcome
  379. ralphm Hi. Who do we have today?
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  381. arc Here
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  384. MattJ Present
  385. ralphm dwd?
  386. dwd o/
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  388. ralphm Agenda items?
  389. MattJ An update on the fiscal hosting application
  390. jonas’ https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/997 is this a board matter or is this just between us operators@ moderators?
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  393. MattJ The latter, I feel
  394. ralphm Agree
  395. ralphm Ok let's start
  396. jonas’ ack
  397. ralphm 1. Minute taker
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  399. ralphm I think that's arc
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  401. ralphm 2. Fiscal Hosting
  402. ralphm MattJ go
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  409. ralphm :crickets:
  410. MattJ Just to follow up from last week, I contacted the applicants and they responded with the details I felt were missing. They have also created an initial repository where they will work, and have confirmed a MIT license: https://gitlab.com/deblounge/xmppjs-mam-plugin
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  415. Sam On a related note, I'll ping peter again about enabling donations (we accidentally did something wrong and it's bank account only for now, which no one will likely want to deal with)
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  418. ralphm Thanks to both. What's still left to do?
  419. MattJ They're applying to us because the developers have had trouble with some of the larger funding platforms not supporting the country in which they are based. As far as we can tell there should be no issue transferring funds between the XSF and their country.
  420. MattJ I think (?) everyone approved a motion to accept the application last week, except for me
  421. Sam (pinged)
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  423. MattJ I'm prepared to approve it now
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  429. ralphm Ok, great
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  431. Sam hovers over the button
  432. ralphm click
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  434. dwd Yeah, click it, I'm unchanged in my view.
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  436. Sam *thumbsup* shall I follow up with a welcome email, or would you like to do that too MattJ as a representative of the board?
  437. ralphm Ok, with that out of the way, anything else on this topic?
  438. Sam I mean, they'll see the accepted either way, so maybe it doesn't matter
  439. ralphm Sam: please go ahead
  440. Sam Will do. Thanks again all.
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  443. MattJ Nothing else on this topic from me
  444. ralphm 3. AOB
  445. ralphm I got a ping on https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/994
  446. ralphm Can we just have communications team figure that out?
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  448. dwd It'd be great if we can, but I'd be surprised if it were practical to translate many of the pages given our available resource.
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  450. MattJ I'm uneasy about it
  451. ralphm Well, sure. Hence my question on demand. I wouldn't recommend putting energy in this right now.
  452. MattJ I'd love to have a fully translated site for every language, but based on volunteer efforts alone the result will be incomplete and almost consistently out of sync with the English version
  453. dwd In what sense? We can't (meaingfully) translate bylaws and things, but having the capability to translate the occasional blog post or newsletter seems OK?
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  458. MattJ I think it may be useful to identify some specific pages that would benefit from this. Pages that don't change very often. That I would be fine with, but not the entire site.
  459. jonas’ floor comment: (1) the beefy part of xmpp.org are the XEPs. There is no chance we'll get consistent implementations for those (though this is a weak argument). (2) what is the xmpp.org target audience? do they need translations? (3) how would we ensure that a translation is kept up to date when a page needs to change?
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  463. jonas’ for blog posts and newsletters, it would be really great to have the translated versions which already exist in the world on the site itself I think
  464. ralphm I agree with that. Have translations of blog posts and news letters, but keep official documents in English only. Particularly XEPs and other organizational documents.
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  467. ralphm I'll pass this as feedback on the ticket
  468. ralphm Anything else today?
  469. wurstsalat > I agree with that. Have translations of blog posts and news letters, but keep official documents in English only. Particularly XEPs and other organizational documents. That sounds good to me, and should be fairly easy to do with hugo
  470. dwd Sounds good to me.
  471. arc +1
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  473. MattJ Yep
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  475. ralphm 4. Date of Next
  476. ralphm I suggest +1W1H
  477. dwd Will that be our last?
  478. ralphm No
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  480. MattJ wfm
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  482. ralphm The election is on November 25
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  486. arc Ok so we're bumping the meeting time ahead by an hour UTC?
  487. dwd Ah, yes, candidate nominations close on the 7th.
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  490. ralphm That'd have my preference, due to meeting conflicts
  491. arc Again I'm fine with that I just want clarity
  492. ralphm arc: hence discussing it for once :-D
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  494. ralphm Cool. Then that seems settled.
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  496. ralphm 5. Close
  497. ralphm Thanks all!
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  499. arc I appreciate that.
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  630. Sam Gentle ping on initial PR to help fix the registrar. As I said before, I am willing to try and do the work on this, but it will require reviewers and iteam and what not unless someone can give me access to just do it: https://github.com/xsf/registrar/pull/41
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  632. Sam (but it's only been a few days, so however people want to proceed is fine by me, I just don't want it falling off the radar)(
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  638. Zash Mmmmm
  639. Zash I'll look at what needs doing
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  643. Zash https://xmpp.org/registrar/ ta-daa
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  651. Sam ooh, nice, I'll go make those fixes you requested. Is that using the same dockerfile + the fixes?
  652. Zash yup
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  655. Sam Actually, maybe I don't understand what you mean, it should already be at / and not need rewrites, or do you want it hosted at /registrar?
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  660. Zash Well it passes `GET /registrar/` along, which translates to /var/www/registrar/registrar/ which returns 404
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  662. Zash Dropping one "registrar" from that `root` line seemed the path of least having to remember how nginx rewrites work
  663. Sam Oh, gotcha. I don't know what best practice is here but it seems wrong to allow all of /var/www to be exposed, not that it's a problem since there's nothing else in there but some default nginx files or something and they wont' be exposed anyways
  664. Zash Not sure if that's what makes "Index of /registrar/" be the heading, but it probably is, and serving from / would be weird
  665. Sam I'm game for whatever though, it just seems to make the most sense to have each container just serve at :80/ and let the main site figure out where it wants that mapped to
  666. Sam I guess I can just disable indexing on / too and only allow it on /registrar
  667. Zash SGTM
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  669. Zash Maybe one day we could make an index.html for it 🙂
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  675. Sam Just figured out how to fix it w/o changing root too, so whichever way you prefer
  676. Sam I was assuming the main site would override /registrar and we'd only serve things in it out of this container, but I went ahead and turned indexing on just in case
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  678. Zash I prefer not having to look att the config for the outermost nginx ever again
  679. Sam Pushed a fix that serves at /registrar
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  694. Sam Now that that works, it would be good to cleanup the pending reviews against that registry. Again, happy to help as I know the current editor says they don't have time, just need permissions to do it.
  695. Sam Or someone else who's willing to do it in the case of the ones I've made.
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  758. jonas’ Sam, I think you're in the editor team, aren't you?
  759. Sam jonas’: I got removed at some point
  760. jonas’ oh it seems so
  761. jonas’ heading to bed now, will figure out what to do next, thanks already!
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  851. wurstsalat > Maybe one day we could make an index.html for it 🙂 Something like that is available for /rfcs (index would be served via hugo, files via rfcs folder) but there is an nginx redirect to figure out before it actually works
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  877. wurstsalat This one https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/975
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