I'd say "that text has been there for a long time, I saw it two years back already in a very similar discussion", but I have +w on both website and xeps, so I'm a prime suspect I'm afraid.
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mdosch
You're the head of the ministry of truth. 😲
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ralphm
Interestingly, Board can also fill vacancies on their own, for the remainder of their term.
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Zash
Hm, instead of electing replacements as part of the normal election?
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They can deside if they want to fill itz, but there is not specified how to.
Another voting nessesary? Or can they just appoint it?
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emus
Well, I hope in sch case we find a good solution as XSF where everyone is happy✎
emus
Well, I hope in this case we find a good solution as XSF where everyone is happy ✏
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flow
I wonder if some of the proposed changes of xep60 in https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1126/files shouldn't actually be clarifications or changes to xep4
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and, as larma already pointed out, the MUST in https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1126/files#diff-0ede34e71ae8ea7199b84fe09913b235f648e79c1549a055b3ddd90fee3211f8R3734 seems unnecessarily restrictive. A 'MAY' seems to be sufficient. The question remains if "the server accepting partial submit type forms" needs to be discoverable before this optimization can be employed
larma
as fields are not tagged with <required/> submitting clients may omit them according to xep 4
larma
but of course servers can still error if that happens...
Not knowing what's going to happen kind of makes submitting a partial form useless
flow
so if a server bails on processing submit type forms where some non-required fields are omitted✎
flow
if a server bails on processing submit type forms where some non-required fields are omitted ✏
flow
moparisthebest, as larma pointed out, xep4 already states that "the submission MAY omit fields not marked with <required/> by the form-processing entity"
flow
so submitting a partial form (where partial form is a form where some non-required fields are omitted) is well defined
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moparisthebest
Right, but what does the server do with the omitted ones? Overwrite the current values with defaults or not touch them?
moparisthebest
Those are very different and if it's not defined, that's bad, and you really can't use it
flow
moparisthebest, fair point, I hope "not touching them"
flow
as this seems the (only?) sensible thing to do
larma
flow, it would definitely not be what I expect, but still compliant in terms of xep 0060 which allows to fail for whatever reason
moparisthebest
This makes not touching them a MUST, which seems the right thing to do, but it is adding a MUST that didn't exist before
flow
larma, I am sorry, I can't follow, what is "it"?
larma
it was bail out
flow
larma, could you point me to the relevant part of xep60 where it allows to fail for whatever reason
larma
8.2.5.2
flow
thanks
larma
the value in <value> of forms of type "form" is meant to be the default, so it makes sense that not submitting it means to take the default value
larma
so what the new rule suggests definitely is what makes most sense
larma
but only if all form fields are independent (like they are currently, but might not be in a future extension)
flow
err, I missread the proposed sentence
flow
and since xep4 does not specify something equivalent, it appears to really belong in xep60
flow
it just feels too generic to be added to xep60, assmuming that we have other places where we do configuration via xep4
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moparisthebest, I am usually on the cautious site, but this appears to be change where we could probably be not very pedantic if we find no implementation that would break
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Yep I agree, was just going to start some list discussion to investigate what current implementations do
flow
but I also think that we settled for a SHOULD in such cases
flow
so that existing implementations don't become suddenly non-compliant
Zash
What's that, you stepped immediately into another XEP-0004 yak ~hole~ abyss?
Zash, what does prosody do if you send a partial submit form for pubsub node configuration?
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leave the undefined fields unchanged or does it reset those to their defaults?
moparisthebest
A SHOULD really makes it useless though, "this might destroy your data if you don't send the whole thing" is a fairly bad protocol
flow
moparisthebest, the typical response to this concern (that I also had in the past) is that
flow
a SHOULD already provides a pretty strong gurantee✎
flow
a SHOULD already provides a pretty strong guarantee ✏
flow
I find that still not intutive
flow
but I see a SHOULD now like a MUST, just that implementations may not do it and still claim to be compliant but maybe not interoperable with some others any more✎
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but I see a SHOULD now like a MUST, just that implementations may not follow it and still claim to be compliant, but, in turn, maybe become interoperable with some others any more ✏
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but I see a SHOULD now like a MUST, just that implementations may not follow it and still claim to be compliant, but, in turn, maybe become non-interoperable with some other impementations ✏
flow
but I see a SHOULD now like a MUST, just that implementations may not follow it and still claim to be compliant, but, in turn, maybe become non-interoperable with some other implementations ✏
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flow, I can double check, I'm currently extracting all MUC error conditions into a registry and getting distracted by refactoring error stanza construction
flow
*just typical wednesday evening stuff* :)
Zash
It uses the existing configuration for any field that is not present in the submitted form.
ok, so prosody is compliant if that's a MUST, so far so good
Zash
MUC behaves the same
flow
moparisthebest, it would also be compliant if it's a SHOULD, no?
flow
ahh right, MUC is also a place where we use forms for configuration
moparisthebest
yes
flow
that makes we wonder that, instead of adding such a sentence to xep45, xep60, and so on, we probably want to add such a sentence to xep4
jonas’
mhm, let's change a Final standard
Zash
I think in general this depends on how xep4 is used by the "outer" XEP. Not all uses have distinct "create" vs "edit" phases.
Zash
jonas’, again?
jonas’
and again and again and again
Zash
Tho when there is create and configure, allowing a partial form in configure makes sense to me.
Zash
But xep4 itself doesn't have this concept iirc?
Zash
It's just .. here's a form, here's submitting the form, glhf.
Zash
Is the very concept of a Final standard even a good idea in a constantly changing world? Even RFCs are updated, tho usually by replacing with a new number.
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flowignores the fact that we have such things as a final standard
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flow
In any case, I was thinking about adding something like "If the form is used to configure an entity, then submitting a partial form only changes the configuration fields contained in the 'submit'-type form and leaves the other configuration parameters of the entity unchanged"
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to xep4
Zash
Not that it is truly set in stone, just slow to update.
Menel
> The Code is more like "guidelines" rather than actual rules