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  15. kurisumakise >they also disabled the connection with public servers Reminded me of this speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEU632_Em3g Iirc he even mentioned xmpp as one of the technologies that have "already failed" to stand against "antidisintermediation"
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  231. Link Mauve XEP-0049 doesn’t define any discovery mechanism, yet Prosody exposes it on the domain JID, poezio checks for that, possibly other implementations also do.
  232. Link Mauve In the process of phasing it out, I’d like to keep support for the one specification still in wide use making use of it: XEP-0048 version 1.0.
  233. Zash TIL http://archive.jabber.org/docs/jpg/
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  236. Link Mauve It feels wrong to advertise support for jabber:iq:private on the domain JID when bookmarks payloads are the only allowed ones, but clients (like poezio currently) might not even try to use bookmarks when the jabber:iq:private feature is not set.
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  239. Link Mauve TIL!
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  241. Link Mauve So, what would be a good way forward? Advertising the feature but erroring out on any write to a different store than legacy bookmarks?
  242. Zash That would work.
  243. Zash Not that many other uses of 49 remains in active use AFAIK
  244. Link Mauve Here are some statistics, on jabber.fr only: https://linkmauve.fr/files/private.txt
  245. Zash But which have been used this decade?
  246. Link Mauve I have no data on this.
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  248. Zash Perhaps we should convert all this to '223 with a '49→'223 conversion layer.
  249. Link Mauve Would this bring anything?
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  252. Link Mauve It’s not like JWChat or Jappix is going to be updated to use 0223.
  253. Zash I mean move all the data into PEP and get rid of the old '49 code
  254. Link Mauve That would make all of these clients not work any longer.
  255. Zash It would if there's yet another compat layer
  256. Zash Move *all* the data into PEP!
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