XSF Discussion - 2021-12-30


  1. Stefan

    The client with the highest priority wins.

  2. Stefan

    https://share.conversations.im/stefank/RmbQpQBOJa4n5OI1/Priority.png

  3. Stefan

    This is an example in profanity.

  4. jonasโ€™

    oh wow, there is still one client which uses/shows priority? ;)

  5. edhelas

    Movim still store it in the db :D

  6. lovetox

    The priority thing should die, it was a mechanism to tell the server to which client to route messages in a time where servers did not route messages to all clients

  7. lovetox

    now that this is fixed its useless complexity

  8. mdosch

    I have that prosody module which sets all priorities to 0.

  9. mdosch

    My users don't know and don't care about priority.

  10. lovetox

    and what purpose does this have?

  11. mdosch

    Prevent that somehow a client gets accidentally set a low priority and doesn't get messages. Not really sure why I enabled it in the first place. But if you make sure all prios are 0 this is an eliminated error source. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  12. Zash

    detach 'receive messages' from 'is available' in Routing 2.0?

  13. Zash

    We're half-way there, depending on just what happens if you enable Carbons while unavailable

  14. dwd

    Ah. FWIW, I keep mumbling that <show/> and particularly <status/> ought to live in PEP these days. (Though <show/> has uses in a per-device sense).

  15. dwd

    mdosch, There's a handful of use-cases for negative priority. mind.

  16. mdosch

    What are negitive priorities used for?

  17. Zash

    What do they even do if you also have Carbons enabled?

  18. mdosch

    What are negative priorities used for?

  19. Zash

    mdosch, in the olden days, it made you appear online but you did not receive messages

  20. mdosch

    What's the use case?

  21. Zash

    Lost in the mists of time

  22. mjk

    Write-only bots?

  23. MattJ

    mdosch: use-cases such as special-purpose (non-IM) clients connected to your account which should be discoverable but not swallow your messages

  24. MattJ

    Games, for example

  25. Zash

    If you were careful, you could get your messages routed only to the device you were at. So like, if you leave work and set negative priority, then go online when you get home, any messages sent while you were traveling would be received there, instead of show up at work where you would not see them until the next day.

  26. Zash

    In the dark ages, before Carbons and MAM

  27. ralphm

    @board I'm at the hospital, so might not make it

  28. ralphm

    The meeting ๐Ÿ˜€

  29. emus

    ralphm - everything alright?

  30. ralphm

    Yeah, nothing to worry about.

  31. emus

    ok

  32. emus

    Anyway get well!

  33. Zash

    Or maybe: Get away safely