XSF Discussion - 2022-01-11


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  361. emus Hi Kev, I am wondering if you have notes left somewhere from previous GSoC applications. Additionally, I wanted to ask whether you have input regarding experiences in organsiation / mentoring?
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  370. Guus emus: flow has also been involved in GSoC organizing in the past. If you haven't already, you might want to poke him too.
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  372. Daniel emus: if you have a specific question feel free to ask me too. I've ran my own org for two years. But if you are just after some general information I think there are some ebooks out there on mentor first timer and org first timer
  373. Daniel I don't have the link anymore but I read those when I Frist started
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  375. flow emus already reached out to me and I suggested that Kev may have some additional notes
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  382. Guus Why is the certificate of this server trusted by xmpp.net: https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=psynet.su&type=client While the certificate of this is not? https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=igniterealtime.org&type=server Same cross-signed chain, as far as I can tell?
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  388. emus Daniel: Thank you Daniel. I just wanted to ask for experience or anything (lessons learned) that one wanted explicit to tell or recommend. I need to prepare the application now
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  475. jonas’ https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1144 do people really need to sign the CLA for this trivial stuff? cc @ board
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  481. dwd My ex-board view: They don't need to "sign the CLA", but they do need to agree to the IPR policy somehow.
  482. jonas’ that is sign the CLA in our case
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  486. jonas’ I think in *this* jurisdiction the change wouldn't have the necessary schöpfungshöhe in order to even qualify for copyright
  487. dwd Well, that's what I mean - the CLA automates the process, but if you can get a statement in any other form (including over IM) that should be sufficient.
  488. dwd "You OK with our IPR policy?" "Yeah".
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  764. debacle About XEP-0060: When a JID, subscribed to a node with "Whitelist Access Model", is removed from the list, but not explicitely unsubscribed, should it get more items or not?
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  782. MattJ Without looking at spec or code, I'm pretty sure that if it no longer has permission to be subscribed, it should be unsubscribed
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  789. debacle MattJ IMHO, the spec is not entirely clear. At least not to me: > A node access model under which an entity may subscribe and retrieve items only if explicitly allowed to do so by the node owner (subscription requests from unauthorized entities are rejected). The first part backs your view, but the last sentence blurs the picture. (I'm not a native speaker of English, blame me!)
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  795. MattJ Native speaker or not, I see no sense in allowing someone to subscribe, removing their permission and having them still be subscribed
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  798. debacle MattJ Me neither! But it wouldn't be the first time, XMPP holds surprises :-)
  799. MattJ :)
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  805. Holger This error is explicitly specified to be returned to non-whitelisted JIDs requesting items: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#subscriber-retrieve-error-whitelist
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  807. Holger This error is explicitly specified to be returned to non-whitelisted JIDs requesting items: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#subscriber-retrieve-error-whitelist
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  811. Holger > XMPP holds surprises :-) At least ejabberd does! Non-boring implementation.
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  814. jonas’ Holger, but that doesn't imply that they don't still *receive* items :)
  815. jonas’ broadcasting items in reply to a publish is not, technically, retrieving
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  833. MattJ Holger, what does ejabberd do in the case where a JID's access is removed?
  834. MattJ I'm fairly sure (without checking code) that Prosody will unsubscribe it
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  836. MattJ But of course I may be wrong
  837. jonas’ … let's better look now than tomorrow
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  842. jonas’ it does seem to unsubscribe
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  856. Holger MattJ: Better ask debacle about the details 🙂 They stumbled over the behavior, and I won't be able to check before tomorrow.
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  860. Holger > Native speaker or not, I see no sense in allowing someone to subscribe, removing their permission and having them still be subscribed Me neither, the desired/intended behavior seems obvious.
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  881. debacle looks like a bug in ejabberd, if my colleagues did observe carefully
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