XSF Discussion - 2022-01-16

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01:14:11 qwestion https://xmpp.org/software/clients/ no feature comparison matrix?
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03:45:34 moparisthebest No we hardly keep a list
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04:11:45 qwestion moparisthebest: so a documentation PR would be rejected
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04:18:01 qwestion moparisthebest: are you and your role mentioned on site? Many use real name yet xmpp handles is mostly what I see in rooms
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04:23:25 qy Is there a more up to date this anywhere? https://xmpp.org/schemas/index.shtml
04:23:39 moparisthebest You can propose whatever, just seems there's been a lot of pushback for doing the bare minimum, something something just a standards org
04:23:44 qy Also lol it's been so long since i've seen a shtml
04:24:10 qy reminices to calling it "shitmail"
04:24:25 moparisthebest Ha yea good times qy
04:25:37 qwestion moparisthebest: matrix clients have good feature comparison
04:25:49 qwestion Was useful
04:26:58 moparisthebest qwestion: matrix is a company that doesn't do standards, just pushes marketing to get those investor dollars
04:26:59 Zash There's the WIP https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/986
04:27:29 Zash Older render: https://linkmauve.fr/software/clients.html
04:27:52 Zash Bunch of discussion in https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/212
04:28:38 moparisthebest qwestion: this unfortunately named website has some feature comparisons https://joinjabber.org/clients/gnulinux/
04:28:59 Zash Having attempted to make a feature comparison table once, I can say that it's a lot of not very rewarding work to keep them up to date and stop everyone from turning it into marketing vehicle for their particular software.
04:29:19 Zash It gets outdated pretty quickly and then people get either misled or unpleasant about it.
04:29:52 Zash Also hard to compare things sometimes. And comparing XEP numbers isn't really optimal
04:31:20 qy E.g. where might i find a theoretical xsd for the old omemo spec
04:31:32 qy But also, every other xep
04:31:54 Zash https://github.com/xsf/xeps/ ?
04:32:14 Zash https://github.com/xsf/schemas ???
04:34:39 qwestion > Having attempted to make a feature comparison table once, I can say that it's a lot of not very rewarding work to keep them up to date and stop everyone from turning it into marketing vehicle for their particular software. > It gets outdated pretty quickly and then people get either misled or unpleasant about it. Wiki where changes get approved?
04:35:49 qwestion ~~And clients devs/reliableenthusiasts are expected to fill their own details~~ ✎
04:36:11 Zash What, create more bureaucracy? That'll just make it even more outdated.
04:36:18 qwestion And clients devs/reliableenthusiasts are expected to fill their own clients details ✏
04:36:46 Zash The current idea is that client projects get to fill in their stuff in files that they serve, that can be collected and mangled into whatever you want.
04:37:08 Zash See https://github.com/pulkomandy/xmpp-doap
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04:37:39 qy > Zash wrote: > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/ ? > https://github.com/xsf/schemas ??? So, latter has e.g. no mention of omemo/axolotl, and former... i _guess_ i could parse out schemas in a hideous manner, but that seems evil
04:38:27 qy I presume its only missing from the latter because experimental?
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04:41:14 qy https://github.com/xsf/schemas/issues/5 oh
04:41:20 qy >2019
04:41:21 qy Wow
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05:09:34 qy ```curl https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.xml | xq '.xep.section1 | map({(.["@anchor"]): .cod e}) | add | .schema' -r``` teehee
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05:14:13 qwestion > Having attempted to make a feature comparison table once, I can say that it's a lot of not very rewarding work to keep them up to date and stop everyone from turning it into marketing vehicle for their particular software. > It gets outdated pretty quickly and then people get either misled or unpleasant about it. How Wikipedia manages to make so many sw comps? Maybe it should be done there too, as many clients don't have a page? Not notable enuf?
05:15:46 qy Zash: if i used that to dump a schema for every xep under the sun, and shoved it in a PR, would it have any hope of going anywhere?
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05:16:41 qy It "works", i just compared 203 to delay.xsd from the schemas page
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05:32:54 qwestion Any client where I can "select all" msgs or shift highlight many msgs?
05:33:53 qwestion Perhaps privacy friendly way to translate
05:34:24 Zash qy, only one way to find out
05:35:13 qy I've dumped them, i'll keep them to myself unless anyone's interested
05:36:13 Zash Not my department anyway, not the one to ask.
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07:26:54 Neustradamus To have XMPP URI support on GitHub, please take your voice too: - https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/10162
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09:37:57 wurstsalat ~~qy: why to make a PR?~~ ✎
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11:20:05 wurstsalat qy: why not make a PR? ✏
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15:58:41 qy wurstsalat: i feel like it'll snowball and i'll end up spending way more time and effort than i intend. That's normally how nontrivial PRs go for me and it's kinda put me off them...
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15:59:27 qy My intention was mainly just to see if i could autogen c++ bindings for every xep and hence have somewhat much neater code
15:59:48 qy Turns out i can autogen, but it's not exactly neat
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16:00:19 dwd qy, C++ client library?
16:01:07 qy Client app, but yeah i was thinking of breaking that bit off into "libXEPs" or something
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16:23:24 dwd qy, Which one?
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19:36:17 rion Which part of standard describes it's wrong to to take into account resolved via SRV hostname while validating xmpp-starttls certificate? I see Conversations and Gajim ignore the hostname during validation.
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19:38:27 Daniel You don't have a trust chain between something the user entered (jid domain) and the hostname
19:38:44 Daniel Unless you do and then Conversations does take it into account
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19:47:58 MattJ rion, https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#security-certificates-validation-server
19:50:18 flow rion, if an attacker is able to spoof the SRV records, then clients using the target of the SRV record to validate the TLS certificate would easily authenticate against an attacker controlled service
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19:55:59 rion true.
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20:05:48 emus ralphm - I wrote you a direct message. Did you receive it?
20:06:32 emus ah nevermind, I will reach out to board via mail directly
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20:19:28 moparisthebest rion: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/The_Knight
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