XSF Discussion - 2022-01-17


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  128. qwestion > wurstsalat: i feel like it'll snowball and i'll end up spending way more time and effort than i intend. That's normally how nontrivial PRs go for me and it's kinda put me off them...
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  131. qwestion Pastrbin it qy
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  135. qwestion Pastebin it? qy
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  196. qy qwestion: http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXGv1p2aLkYG8qQTwQwhowwhiVwNHo2nvju69o5vksoeT
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  205. qwestion qy: nice does it work/view better w an ipfs browser like Thor?
  206. qy γ„Ÿ(ツ)ㄏ you tell me
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  211. qwestion qy: first time I c ipfs used as paste, is it common now? On xmpp else where?
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  307. emus is there actually a board email to reach out?
  308. jonas’ emus, board@xmpp.org
  309. emus it should be placed on the website I think
  310. emus thanks
  311. jonas’ emus, info@xmpp.org
  312. jonas’ https://xmpp.org/contact/ which actually is on the website
  313. jonas’ I think at least that info@ is read by board
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  337. emus jonas’: but I was looking for this where is it linked?
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  339. emus ah at the very bottom
  340. emus hmmm, I wonder if we should place that better
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  347. dwd rion, Also RFC 6125 goes into all of that DNS/DNSSEC/X.509/etc stuff in more detail, but with fewer fairies and wizards and stuff.
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  352. rion I'm still trying to figure out. Assuming xmpp is somehow balanced via srv records. Each host behind srv has a host name and all of them are covered by wildcard certificate. Does it mean I need two certificates? Like wildcard + for base domain. Or its better to not use certs for particular hosts at all. Like to use just base certificate for every host and check just it. In other words ignore the fact the returned certificate doesn't match particular host name but rather matches only to xmpp domain.
  353. jonas’ rion, you need a certificate only for the domain behind the @ in XMPP adresses
  354. jonas’ the host names inside the SRV records do not matter at all
  355. rion Ok. Thsnks
  356. dwd rion, All clients (and servers) will validate the XMPP domain name is in the certificate, so this is the best option. Some will also validate the hostname, but only if the SRV record was DNSSEC-signed. Some might also validate the IP Address, but again only if the A/AAAA record was signed.
  357. dwd rion, We want DNSSEC and hostname verification supported in clients (and servers) because it makes mass-hosting of many domains much much simpler, and results in less sharing of cryptographic material across administrative domain boundaries.
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  362. rion dwd: thanks. Though could you elaborate about "much simpler"?
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  365. dwd If you have one (clustered) server hosting, say, 1000 domains, and you add one, currently (for interop) you need to replace the certificate on the service to include the new domain (or add a new certificate). The certificate then allows the XMPP provider to spoof the customer's website, which is "not ideal". But if the new domain has a DNSSEC SRV record, and the certificate has the hostname(s), then you don't need to do anything.
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  686. flow allright, which one here owns xmpp.sexy? :)
  687. edhelas flow depends, what do you want to do with it 😏 ?
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  689. flow same as rms.sexy, just with current council members maybe? :)
  690. edhelas so much sexy thinkpads on that one
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  717. emus lol that domain^^
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