XSF Discussion - 2022-01-25


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  411. Guus jonas’ / emus: it is possible to block individuals from contributing to your organization's account, on Github, through the organization's account settings (under "moderation settings").
  412. Guus There's no need to involve Github's support team for that, we can do that ourselves (and do not need to provide a reason in the UI, when adding the user to the block list).
  413. emus MattJ:
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  415. emus I dont know but slightly giving my +1
  416. jonas’ Guus, yeah, figured that out later
  417. Guus It is wild to add an existing XSF member to a blocklist of our own tooling though. I'm not sure if we have a process for this.
  418. jonas’ we probably don't
  419. Zash Is it a board or iteam matter?
  420. Zash Is answering that a board or iteam or member meeting matter?
  421. Zash (how many levels of meta can we go?)
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  423. Daniel and that's why you need CoCs lol
  424. Guus To be clear: I'm not advocating to add Neustradamus to this list, at least not without further deliberation and possibly a(nother) warning. My intent here was to point out that there are options available other than the tooling suggested so far.
  425. MattJ I'm not unfamiliar with Github's blocking functionality, and have (unsurprisingly) had cause to use it before. However not within the 'xsf' organization. I'm not going to make that decision on my own, especially against someone elected a member by the other members.
  426. emus Well, maybe we should keep it with a clear last warning first.
  427. Daniel as someone who has them blocked on my own github orgs as well as on xmpp I agree that we probably shouldn’t just block elected members from the github org
  428. Daniel as much as i personally would welcome that action
  429. Sam Yah, probably best to take this up at the membership level if any action is to be taken. Though it's unclear to me whether they've actually violated the CoC or if they're just kind of annoying and not really a problem (unless they reached out claiming to represent the XSF or something more serious)
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  432. MattJ Indeed
  433. jonas’ I don't think its a violation of the CoC as written
  434. Kev FWIW, I think if they're pinging people causing annoyance to XMPP devs (or non-XMPP devs) who're mostly outside the community and making the XSF look bad, something should be done.
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  437. Guus What bugs me is that I'm convinced that their actions stem from good intentions, which makes things a lot less clear-cut for me.
  438. jonas’ "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"?
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  440. Guus that's different.
  441. Kev Is it?
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  446. Guus I've always interpreted that as "having good intentions but not following through with them"
  447. Kev Oh. That's not how I've used it.
  448. Guus so if that's the interpretation, then I think it's different. I might be wrong in my interpretation though.
  449. Kev I've always used it as "having good intentions but the result not being positive"
  450. jonas’ my interpretation is, people have good intentions and cause harm with those
  451. Guus harhg. I feel a rabbit hole to tumble in coming up...
  452. Kev Wikipedia lists Guus's as an alternative interpretation. So we can all be right.
  453. Guus well, in that case, it is veyr appropriate :)
  454. Guus aaanyway.
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  480. emus > Guus escribió: > harhg. I feel a rabbit hole to tumble in coming up... No woories, Im with you
  481. emus > Guus escribió: > harhg. I feel a rabbit hole to tumble in coming up... No worries, Im with you
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  484. emus Lets not overkill this. I apologized to the external parties (to the ones I saw and to my best understanding). I think a clear warning and possible actions what happens is this continues be stated. Maybe also asking to not use @mentions within our repos anymore.
  485. emus Lets not overkill this. I apologized to the external parties (to the ones I saw and to my best understanding). And they were fine (thunderbird) I think a clear warning and possible actions what happens is this continues be stated. Maybe also asking to not use @mentions within our repos anymore.
  486. Zash s/use/abuse/
  487. emus Lets not overkill this. I apologized to the external parties (to the ones I saw and to my best understanding). And the dev was fine (thunderbird) I think a clear warning and possible actions what happens is this continues be stated. Maybe also asking to not use @mentions within our repos anymore.
  488. emus okay
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  490. Kev emus: Sounds sane to me.
  491. emus k
  492. Kev All I meant by 'something should be done' is 'this sholudn't be ignored'.
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  495. emus Yep, I would say so too. but lets keep this not too formal and someone can reach out. I can do so if you tell me what points you want me to make finally
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  497. emus we shouldnt waste more energy with this too I think
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  499. Kev I think simply 1) Don't open refresh PRs unless it's your project 2) Don't ping people
  500. emus Any other points? Would you be okay with this? MattJ Guus jonas’
  501. moparisthebest We ping people about that all the time
  502. moparisthebest Someone just pinged Daniel about it here
  503. emus yes. but not entire times and in bulk requests
  504. emus yes. but not entire teams and in bulk requests
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  506. emus I think was me before seing where it goes
  507. moparisthebest Right
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  518. emus I think was me before seeing where it goes
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  521. emus And the MoonguseIM and Thunderbird where pinging of "random" devs
  522. emus and @mozilla
  523. MattJ Sorry, I don't have much bandwidth for this right now. Seems sane, but "don't ping people" is pretty broad. I accept that codifying acceptable social behaviour is a difficult task :)
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  525. Zash What's left to do in order to move to basing that on DOAP instead?
  526. emus Zash: +1
  527. Zash And like, just list inactive projects at the bottom in a boring simple list of shame
  528. moparisthebest Yes doesn't the new awesome thing that uses doap fix this? Can we smash that merge button now?
  529. emus MattJ: so you dont prefer that I can reach out
  530. Kev To my mind, a polite request not to ping people for this one individual as they don't seem able to determine when it's appropriate themselves, is reasonable.
  531. MattJ Zash, indeed. The annual renewal thing was always a hack I wasn't keen on, and it has always had loopholes like this. Let's just move forward with DOAP (or anything else).
  532. emus > moparisthebest escribió: > Yes doesn't the new awesome thing that uses doap fix this? Can we smash that merge button now? not yet, awaiting some more works (link mauve maybe you find some time)
  533. Zash (do we need a board decision on that?)
  534. MattJ Please no
  535. emus > Kev escribió: > To my mind, a polite request not to ping people for this one individual as they don't seem able to determine when it's appropriate themselves, is reasonable. +1
  536. MattJ The website is commteam's, it's just a simple software listing, how hard can it be? :)
  537. Zash > how hard can it be? famous last words, before descending into madness
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  540. emus > MattJ escribió: > The website is commteam's, it's just a simple software listing, how hard can it be? :) ...
  541. wurstsalat that Software listing PR is missing the DOAP processing part developed by Link Mauve
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  544. emus thanks for clarifying
  545. Zash Save us Link Mauve, you're our only hope!
  546. emus Ok, but then I will write a personal message, ok?
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  548. MattJ emus, go for it
  549. moparisthebest emus: as an aside I like how your client leaks your language setting when you quote people :)
  550. Wojtek > Zash, indeed. The annual renewal thing was always a hack I wasn't keen on, and it has always had loopholes like this. Let's just move forward with DOAP (or anything else). How DOAP should help here? AFAIR it mostly list software capabilites?
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  552. Wojtek (i.e. determining active/inactive)
  553. wurstsalat I guess only active projects provide a DOAP file at all
  554. Daniel active/inactive has probably always been a poor shorthand for 'good'
  555. MattJ Wojtek, technically this was never about active/inactive
  556. Zash Lets you get compliance level
  557. Kev Technically this was about finding a way people were happy with of removing Gaim from the listings.
  558. Kev Technically this was about finding a way people were happy with of removing Pidgin from the listings.
  559. moparisthebest if I remember right the motivation for the "revew every X" was to keep pidgin away, that failed, how about we just stop doing it ?
  560. MattJ We just wanted a way to sort the clients that was easy, so we can show the better (~more up-to-date) ones first
  561. Wojtek > Technically this was about finding a way people were happy with of removing Pidgin from the listings. lol :-)
  562. moparisthebest if I remember right the motivation for the "renew every X" was to keep pidgin away, that failed, how about we just stop doing it ?
  563. Wojtek well, I do understand with the sentiment to somehow filter outdated software (that doesn't support modern features which gives bad impression of XMPP) but bumping "last updated" doesn't quite achieve that (as stated above)
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  565. Wojtek > Lets you get compliance level understood, thanks!
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  567. Zash As said, not great, but nobody had any better idea at the time
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  571. emus Yes, I think so too Zash I think we all agree to continue with Doap file for many reasons. How we extract and evaluate data and turn it into an overview is another thing and we will find a at least better solution
  572. emus moparisthebest: yes, I dont care at the moment. but I thinl there is an open issue already
  573. Stefan I would prefer to keep all clients and let the developer update a "last release date". I think XMPP should be independent of "modern" clients. It should be another place to define those clients.
  574. Zash What users see: "XSF recommends Pidgin"
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  576. Kev Last release date has obvious issues, particularly around things like Pidgin. I'm not sure there's a particularly good solution really.
  577. wurstsalat Stefan, DOAP would certainly help users in making an informed decision. I'm not saying this concept (clients advertising support by themselves) is perfect, but it sure is better than the list there is right now
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  580. Zash DOAP can include release dates fwiw
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  582. moparisthebest let's tackle the "clients lie in DOAP files" problem when it comes up
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  585. wurstsalat Link Mauve to the rescue
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  634. emus Yes, that would be really great
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  666. emus I wrote a message to Neustraddamus
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  1040. emus Hello everyone, the website is almost ready and the promo files are waiting to be merged (I dont wanna paste the files here again). If you know a university or good place where to promote please go ahead: https://xmpp.org/community/gsoc-2022/
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  1044. emus If you have a project that is good to participate please take a look at the wiki
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  1182. lovetox i saw LastActivity deprecated
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  1185. lovetox i just wanted to say its the only way to get server uptime, and i think thats a nice thing the XEP provides
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  1188. lovetox oh wait ignore me, that was last activity in presence
  1189. lovetox yeah we dont need that
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  1203. Selecikne https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8553/ İs this latest ietf XMPP core update?
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  1210. MattJ Latest XMPP core is RFC 6120 (XMPP IM is RFC 6121)
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  1213. Selecikne > MattJ wrote: > Latest XMPP core is RFC 6120 (XMPP IM is RFC 6121) Okay thanks
  1214. Selecikne I missed
  1215. wurstsalat MattJ, on that matter :) there is a missing server direction for /rfcs
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  1220. MattJ I hereby invite you to create an issue at https://github.com/xsf/infrastructure/issues with details and... ping me
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  1223. MattJ I've got a lot going on, but either someone can take care of it or I'll look at it next week
  1224. emus Take your time Matt
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