XSF Discussion - 2022-02-04


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  246. msavoritias Cant clients have new groups as MIX but still keep MUC as fallback? From what i got muc is "good enough". That's why people didnt move to Mix quickly. Plus slow development.
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  253. moparisthebest Sure you could use both
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  258. Menel Or the server has an automatic bridge module, so you always have a legacy access 😄
  259. moparisthebest Sure, but if your server is going to function as a muc bouncer for you... Then you've already just fixed all the problems with muc, congrats! :)
  260. moparisthebest There's even a prosody module that does this already
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  263. Menel I meant a muc MUX bridge with auto creation of the muc if a mix is created
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  266. msavoritias I dont know about this approach. Atsome point there has to be some cut off. Otherwise you are stuck in an endless migration
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  270. Menel And thats why we stay with muc for a while longer.. There are always more important problems. And thats ok IMHO
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  289. guus.der.kinderen jonas’: there's some interest in helping with XMPP.net 2.0 being expressed on the operators mailing list. Shall I forward them to your repo?
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  319. jonas’ guus.der.kinderen, replying out of band
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  352. Guus XEP-0045 hints at sending IQ Pings to detect ghost users. This proves to be less straightforward as expected. What strategies around failure to respond (in a timely manner) would be appropriate?
  353. jonas’ from a server side?
  354. Guus yeah.
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  365. flow related: I was wondering if presence probes wouldn't be better than IQ Pings, as ideally you get an updated presence in return. But I haven't looked at the detailed working of presence probes in a while, so they may not even be an option
  366. Guus Stream Management is annoying, in this respect. Can a remote domain figure out what the maximum allowable delay in responding to a IQ request is for users on the local domain?
  367. jonas’ timeouts are always wrong
  368. Guus Ghost detecting kind of depends on them, I think?
  369. flow Guus, I doubt that the information of the stream management timeout would be helpful
  370. jonas’ you'll find the ghosts when you get type="error" in reply to presence/message broadcasts
  371. flow for one, jonas is somehow right that timeouts are always wrong
  372. flow and furthermore, there are more timeouts than the stream management timeout, for example the tcp state machince's timeout
  373. flow I always assumed that MUC ghost detection is mostly about detecting ghosts of users that are long gone (say > 60min), and not about users who have a "short" ghost period where they are disconnected (< 60min)
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  375. flow So I'd probably trigger the ghost detection after 45 minutes of inactivity with a timeout of 15 minutes or so
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  409. Guus That might be the pragmatic thing to do to fix this Flow, thanks.
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  414. Link Mauve “18:56:34 Zash> I do wonder if maybe it's time to have a dedicated roster-of-sorts for MUC bookmarks.”, yay, fourth^Wfifth way of doing bookmarks!
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  416. Link Mauve “15:35:45 Zash> Save us Link Mauve, you're our only hope!”, I’ve stalled that for way too long, and I’m sorry about that. v_v
  417. Link Mauve Now that I got my new Mesa driver out, I’ll try to context switch back to XMPP a bit, it’ll be nice for me too.
  418. Link Mauve Please hold me off from doing any Nintendo hacking if you see me doing so!
  419. Link Mauve emus, “If you know a university or good place where to promote please go ahead: https://xmpp.org/community/gsoc-2022/”, the logo at the top looks like it was made for a light background, but I don’t know CSS well enough to know how to replace it with a lighter logo (especially for the “XMPP” text).
  420. Andrzej Menel wrote: > I meant a muc MUX bridge with auto creation of the muc if a mix is created That is what our implemenetation does. It provides MUC room as a compatibility fallback on the same jid as the MIX channel has.
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  443. emus Link Mauve: yes. its just translaprent. Im not good at working with svg etc. so its just a png lets not worry too much about it
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  445. Link Mauve Right.
  446. Link Mauve Speaking of SVG and transparency, https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/1067
  447. Link Mauve If you ever want me to look at a SVG, or even do it for you, feel free to ping me.
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  450. Link Mauve I might not always be available for it, but it’s something I enjoy doing.
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  457. emus Link Mauve: Many thanks. May I ask first to take a look at the clients page PR? That would have more impact I think
  458. Link Mauve Sure, I was on my way to do that, but found a yak with very long hair mid-way.
  459. emus Great - I dont understand the idiom but I assume you run into issues?
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  461. Link Mauve Ah no, it’s just threading the metaphorical yak shaving. ^^
  462. jonas’ emus, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yak_shaving
  463. jonas’ > Any apparently useless activity which, by allowing you to overcome intermediate difficulties, allows you to solve a larger problem.
  464. jonas’ > A less useful activity done consciously or subconsciously to procrastinate about a larger but more useful task.
  465. jonas’ also: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Y/yak-shaving.html
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  473. emus Hah, ok. Well, its alright Link Mauve. Highly appreciated ☺
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  541. mjk Link Mauve: > Use a better logo for Linux It's happening!!11 > I traced simple geometry behind the existing logo and ran svgcleaner on it, in order to not increase its size too much. The "official" logo isn't exactly heavy either, it terms of bytes. Is it too shiny though? :) There's one with flat speculars too! http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/penguin/ Looks even better, imo
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  543. Link Mauve Compare the size of any of these with my version. :p
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  545. Link Mauve The ruby logo is much larger than the other ones on our page, maybe we could find an alternative one.
  546. Sam *troll* Nah, that sounds about right for anything involving Ruby
  547. Sam ducks
  548. Link Mauve :D
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  550. Link Mauve Before optimising the logos though, compressing the CSS and JS would give a much higher gain of transfer size, and enabling caching on most of the resources would do even better for subsequent requests.
  551. mjk Link Mauve: oops, yeah, the non-flat ones are bloat. I went by the 90k one on wikipedia. Anyway, the 19k of the flat one seems perfectly reasonable (maybe optimizable too)
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  553. Link Mauve mjk, my version is 3.7 KiB, or 1.6 KiB after brotli compression.
  554. Link Mauve And given the size we render it at, I think that’s good enough.
  555. mjk but it loses important detail T^T
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  557. mjk *Yak shaving intensifies*
  558. Sam actually, jokes aside, I haven't touched Ruby probably in a decade. Is there good xmpp support? What is the library most ruby folks choose?
  559. Zash Heh, those glorious days of RoR hype, when writing a blog engine was fun
  560. Link Mauve Last time I tried to update omnipresence, xmpp4r was completely dead and it was easier to RIIP than to revive it.
  561. Link Mauve (Omnipresence was a component for showing your presence info, avatar, PEP mood and such, on the web.)
  562. Zash And that Ruby XMPP server seems to have died after the author got hired by Github
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  564. mjk should go back to suffering windows scripts for Dino portable
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  582. emus > mjk escribió: > *Yak shaving intensifies* 🙈 the users want clients !!1! No is alright, take your time and most important is you keep up the fun!
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  584. emus ahh its you mjk. got confusdd
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  589. Sam Yah, looking through RubyGems I don't see anything that's been updated since 2018 at the latest and most XMPP things seem to have been abandoned around 2014. Oh well.
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  591. emus RubyGems?
  592. Sam Their package repo
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  596. jonas’ is that retracing of the penguin even ok, trademark-law wise?
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  598. Sam "Permission to use and/or modify this image is granted provided you acknowledge me lewing@isc.tamu.edu and The GIMP if someone asks."
  599. Sam As far as I know the status has never changed since Larry Ewing drew Tux the first time
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  716. mjk > 🙈 the users want clients !!1! > No is alright, take your time and most important is you keep up the fun! > ahh its you mjk. got confusdd Yea, I'm not Georg, far from it
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  745. jonas’ Sam: that sounds like copyright stuff, not trademark stuff
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  756. Sam It doesn't matter in this case. They said anyone could use it'
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  912. emus http://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/02/Announcing Season of Docs 2022.html are actually experiences with this in XMPP?
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  914. moparisthebest needs more url encoding...
  915. moparisthebest https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/02/Announcing%20Season%20of%20Docs%202022.html
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  917. Zash I do wonder if XEPs are within scope of that.
  918. emus moparisthebest: thanks
  919. Zash But also, all documentation of all open source projects are perpetually in dire need of help, so might be good to at least look into it more
  920. emus Zash: yes me too
  921. emus would there be volunteers to check this out. Even if I would have time I wonder if im the right person
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  967. emus We were just discussing to tweet significant publications of the XEP work. wurstsalat things its a very good idea also showing XEP development is not dead. Proposal welcome. Maybe we can start with MUJI
  968. emus edhelas are you alright I use one image from here? https://mov.im/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/end-to-end-encryption-in-movim-omemo-is-finally-there-yudZPP in the newsletter?
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  970. edhelas Yup
  971. emus Great
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  974. edhelas You can buy the NFT if you want 😌
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  985. emus 😃️ where should I transfer da money?
  986. emus I can trust you of course, right?.... right?
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  999. edhelas On the XEPChain
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  1007. emus I'm buying XEPs only
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