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  243. mjk > XMPP has been mentioned in a German public TV <https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM?t=844> show in the context of data protection. And then the misheard subtitles spell "Java" for "Jabber"... Dammit, ZDF, you had _one_ job!
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  251. Guus What are common maximum resumption teams for stream management used by clients / servers? Openfire defaults to 10 minutes.
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  256. mjk Anyway, the easiest first step to interop seems to be to forbid Facebook et al to forbid third-party clients in their ToSes and require them to have stable APIs. The transports/bridges/whatnot would then do the rest
  257. Guus teams -> times (I need more coffee)
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  328. flow just when you about to buy a vacuum cleaner bot to support XMPP in IoT you get this: https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/pull/12231#discussion_r800626621
  329. Zash Guus, Prosody defaults to 10m too
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  332. jonas’ what the
  333. jonas’ flow, I did not need to see that
  334. MattJ flow, those times when it's regrettable Github has no '😱' reaction
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  336. Link Mauve This is horrifying.
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  338. flow muhahaha, just like Roko's basilisk, you can't get it out of your head now ;)
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  342. jonas’ you are underestimating the strength of the walls of my vault
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  346. Guus flow, don't do this to me on a Monday.
  347. edhelas What, XMPP in a vaccum cleaner ?
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  349. Kev My faith in humanity is restored.
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  351. edhelas I though that Matrix was there for those weird usecases ?!
  352. edhelas Now we have to add to the XMPP homepage "XMPP is also collecting dust" !
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  360. Guus be brave and go with "XMPP sucks"
  361. edhelas :D
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  364. moparisthebest At least it's not json...
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  367. Guus kindly knock on nearest-by wood, mopar.
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  369. edhelas slap on top of the vaccum cleaner
  370. edhelas "you can fit so many XML in that"
  371. moparisthebest Guus, done
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  373. Vacuum Cleaner Content is not allowed in prolog, edhelas
  374. edhelas hello Vaccum
  375. moparisthebest you know, this gives a whole new meaning to this meme https://www.moparisthebest.com/images/xmpp-vs-matrix.jpg
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  380. Neustradamus moparisthebest: :D
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  382. moparisthebest emus, if the next newsletter doesn't mention "xmpp sucks" I'll be sad :P
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  384. Sam Perfect click bait title!
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  387. edhelas Actually their XMPP implementation really sucks
  388. moparisthebest don't they all in one way or the other
  389. emus > moparisthebest escribió: > emus, if the next newsletter doesn't mention "xmpp sucks" I'll be sad :P The what? 😅
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  393. Guus emus: flo was asked to help with a (very ... special ...) XMPP implementation that exposes functionality of a certain brand of vacuum cleaners.
  394. Guus hilarity ensued
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  397. emus Ahh, now I get it 😆 I am +1 for "XMPP sucks... dust in your flat" 🙈
  398. moparisthebest right those are just the mundane details though, the takeaway is we now have definitive proof that XMPP sucks
  399. emus that will be the story of the week the pad is open for your suggestions 😃
  400. Kev > I am +1 for "XMPP sucks... dust in your flat" 🙈 If only there'd been a Summit, we could have had that on the t-shirts.
  401. emus 😆
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  431. mdosch moparisthebest: Time for your xmpp sucks meme?
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  433. moparisthebest Already linked it, gives it a whole new meaning though
  434. mdosch Oh yeah, missed it.
  435. mdosch But I stumbled above xmpp and vacuum cleaners before.
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  659. Zash JME changed name and base-namespace?
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  661. Zash Can I pretend `urn:xmpp:jingle-message:1` never existed?
  662. larma I don't think anyone ever implemented it
  663. larma and technically the PR is not merged yet 😉
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  667. Zash Oh dang, you tricked me with a carefully crafted wobsite
  668. Zash Sleepy time, not coding time
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  675. larma Zash, you mean I should stop producing previews of PRs for easier reading as they could be misunderstood?
  676. larma 😀
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  690. Zash Blinking "DRAFT NOT MERGED" background maybe 😛
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  698. moparisthebest <marquee>draft not merged</marquee>
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  705. larma Zash, Done: https://larma.de/xeps/xep-0353.html 😉
  706. Zash Perfection
  707. Zash Now I can rest easy
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