Anyone else taking SRC records and security seriously?✎
Zash
Anyone else taking SRV records and security seriously? ✏
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Neustradamus
Zash: Thanks for the adding of RFC6331: https://hg.prosody.im/trunk/rev/2390837b8358
It is really important for SCRAM, to explain people, developers, server admins.
I have been promoting this RFC for a very long time.
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emus
MattJ, dwd, ralphm - can you confirm we don't have anything like an official Google XSF account already?
guus.der.kinderen
For what purpose would we have such an account emus ? They're typically bound to an individual, not an organisation, as far as I know.
emus
Yes, but for GSoC application it could make sense, right?
guus.der.kinderen
We might be talking about different things.
emus
No, I dont think so
emus
I was thinking to create somthing like: xsf@gmail.com - with that account I do the application
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emus
not good?
guus.der.kinderen
From past experience, applying to participate is done by an individual. Google also facilitates distinct individuals to have roles in the process. This worked pretty well in the past.
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moparisthebest
You can't do it with a @xmpp.org email?
guus.der.kinderen
Maybe a more global account would also work, but I am not immediately seeing a major benefit or need for it.
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flow
what guus said
guus.der.kinderen
If anything, it's a other resource that we need to manage.
guus.der.kinderen
I'm not opposed to having such an account at all. I'm just not seeing much of a benefit. If you do see one, by all means, go for it.
emus
well, the only thing is for me to prevent to deal with a private account at Google 🙂
I think registrations requires a google account - let me check again
Zash
Interacting with Google requires a Google account. Is this news to you?
emus
Well, wait - maybe not. Yes of course, I expected it
guus.der.kinderen
If you are participating in GSoC then having a Google account requirement seems acceptable
"Google möchte aus Sicherheitsgründen Ihre Identität bestätigen. Google sendet Ihnen eine SMS mit einem 6-stelligen Bestätigungscode. Hierfür fallen Standardgebühren an."
arrgggg 🤣️
emus
I'm gonna use my spam number, ok
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Kev
Yes, Google admins need to use their personal Google accounts to sign up and manage everything. We shouldn't use an XSF account for this.
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moparisthebest
Not just an email? Like I can log into Microsoft with my personal email✎
moparisthebest
Not just an email? Like I can log into Microsoft with my personal email on my own domain that I host myself ✏
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Sam
Yes, it's the same thing, you don't have to have a gmail address associated with it, but you do have to have a Google Account.
Sam
It's this way for all their services (except gmail, I assume, that one you probably have to have a gmail address for)
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moparisthebest
That seems ok...
emus
Kev, Sam - they allow to use another email adress if you check the buttons carfully
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guus.der.kinderen
Corporate-type subscriptions allow you to register any domain name.
emus
so I did and I am registered
emus
Do you want me to proceed. I assume this shouldn't be a problem right?
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emus
@board, mattj, ralphm, arc, jcbrand:
For your information:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/terms/org
I am reading them and as long as I don't see any issues from my perspective I will accept.
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Kev
Your own mail address, but you still need a Google account, no?
emus
Ah, yes
emus
I used the comm-team email
emus
but the account name is XMPP Standards Foundation - ok?
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Kev
You're entering into personal agreements with Google, if it's the same as previous years.
Sam
Wasn't that one already a Google account? Pretty sure someone created one at one point to be on the youtube channel
Kev
At least in previous years, it needs to be a personal Google account entering into personal agreements with Google, as well as agreeing that you have the right to enter the organisation into agreement with Google.
Kev
I do know they replaced their systems this year, but it seems likely that's still true.
emus
4.7 Participants can access, update, and remove their personal information in their Program profile.
I wonder if they are really so harsh
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emus
Kev, do you see any issues with the terms?
Should I proceed and do you think they will claim the name to be personal if they see it or is that a risk they do not accept us?
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emus
So it should be fine to join with a generalized email. Once mattj reacts I will send him the credentials
If you don't want to have a personal google account, it might be best to instead have someone else submit the application. After all it's not important who exactly submits the application. And you can still help wording the application texts.
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emus
We have an account now, it worked
emus
Board, see also:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/rules
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/terms/member
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emus
Organization Administrators.
Role.
Each Organization must have at least two (2) Organization Administrators.
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Kev
I'm the wrong person to ask about terms, I don't have any say here.