XSF Discussion - 2022-02-08


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  313. mathieui larma: the warning can be missed when linking to a specific part!! https://larma.de/xeps/xep-0353.html#intro
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  316. larma mathieui, now you are overengineering things.
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  347. kurisu > https://larma.de/xeps/xep-0353.html#intro Could you please make that "preview" label more flashy and distracting
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  350. jonas’ I could've sworn there was an RFC for the TLS verification strategy with SRV records in play
  351. jonas’ i.e. iff DNSSEC, allow only the destination hostname in the certificate, otherwise require the service name in the certificate
  352. Zash DNA?
  353. Zash https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype#section-4
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  355. Zash https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7712#section-6
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  364. jonas’ oh
  365. jonas’ that's XMPP specific?
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  370. Zash Anyone else taking SRC records and security seriously?
  371. Zash Anyone else taking SRV records and security seriously?
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  395. Neustradamus Zash: Thanks for the adding of RFC6331: https://hg.prosody.im/trunk/rev/2390837b8358 It is really important for SCRAM, to explain people, developers, server admins. I have been promoting this RFC for a very long time.
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  573. emus MattJ, dwd, ralphm - can you confirm we don't have anything like an official Google XSF account already?
  574. guus.der.kinderen For what purpose would we have such an account emus ? They're typically bound to an individual, not an organisation, as far as I know.
  575. emus Yes, but for GSoC application it could make sense, right?
  576. guus.der.kinderen We might be talking about different things.
  577. emus No, I dont think so
  578. emus I was thinking to create somthing like: xsf@gmail.com - with that account I do the application
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  580. emus not good?
  581. guus.der.kinderen From past experience, applying to participate is done by an individual. Google also facilitates distinct individuals to have roles in the process. This worked pretty well in the past.
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  584. moparisthebest You can't do it with a @xmpp.org email?
  585. guus.der.kinderen Maybe a more global account would also work, but I am not immediately seeing a major benefit or need for it.
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  596. flow what guus said
  597. guus.der.kinderen If anything, it's a other resource that we need to manage.
  598. guus.der.kinderen I'm not opposed to having such an account at all. I'm just not seeing much of a benefit. If you do see one, by all means, go for it.
  599. emus well, the only thing is for me to prevent to deal with a private account at Google 🙂 I think registrations requires a google account - let me check again
  600. Zash Interacting with Google requires a Google account. Is this news to you?
  601. emus Well, wait - maybe not. Yes of course, I expected it
  602. guus.der.kinderen If you are participating in GSoC then having a Google account requirement seems acceptable
  603. guus.der.kinderen But I am aware that opinions may vary on that. 😊
  604. emus 🙂
  605. emus https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/9AkhpmWYmpf_loGd/54afe12a-9510-4cb8-9826-5e59ce47ce9f.png
  606. emus "Google möchte aus Sicherheitsgründen Ihre Identität bestätigen. Google sendet Ihnen eine SMS mit einem 6-stelligen Bestätigungscode. Hierfür fallen Standardgebühren an." arrgggg 🤣️
  607. emus I'm gonna use my spam number, ok
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  609. Kev Yes, Google admins need to use their personal Google accounts to sign up and manage everything. We shouldn't use an XSF account for this.
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  612. moparisthebest Not just an email? Like I can log into Microsoft with my personal email
  613. moparisthebest Not just an email? Like I can log into Microsoft with my personal email on my own domain that I host myself
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  615. Sam Yes, it's the same thing, you don't have to have a gmail address associated with it, but you do have to have a Google Account.
  616. Sam It's this way for all their services (except gmail, I assume, that one you probably have to have a gmail address for)
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  618. moparisthebest That seems ok...
  619. emus Kev, Sam - they allow to use another email adress if you check the buttons carfully
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  621. guus.der.kinderen Corporate-type subscriptions allow you to register any domain name.
  622. emus so I did and I am registered
  623. emus Do you want me to proceed. I assume this shouldn't be a problem right?
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  627. emus @board, mattj, ralphm, arc, jcbrand: For your information: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/terms/org I am reading them and as long as I don't see any issues from my perspective I will accept.
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  633. Kev Your own mail address, but you still need a Google account, no?
  634. emus Ah, yes
  635. emus I used the comm-team email
  636. emus but the account name is XMPP Standards Foundation - ok?
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  638. Kev You're entering into personal agreements with Google, if it's the same as previous years.
  639. Sam Wasn't that one already a Google account? Pretty sure someone created one at one point to be on the youtube channel
  640. Kev At least in previous years, it needs to be a personal Google account entering into personal agreements with Google, as well as agreeing that you have the right to enter the organisation into agreement with Google.
  641. Kev I do know they replaced their systems this year, but it seems likely that's still true.
  642. emus 4.7 Participants can access, update, and remove their personal information in their Program profile. I wonder if they are really so harsh
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  651. emus Kev, do you see any issues with the terms? Should I proceed and do you think they will claim the name to be personal if they see it or is that a risk they do not accept us?
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  662. emus So it should be fine to join with a generalized email. Once mattj reacts I will send him the credentials
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  664. emus https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/bLqXvIjqba3uN3uX/7c0f5be2-4173-44c6-b572-7efbe165fb9c.png
  665. lskdjf If you don't want to have a personal google account, it might be best to instead have someone else submit the application. After all it's not important who exactly submits the application. And you can still help wording the application texts.
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  669. emus We have an account now, it worked
  670. emus Board, see also: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/rules https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/terms/member
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  683. emus Organization Administrators. Role. Each Organization must have at least two (2) Organization Administrators.
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  694. Kev I'm the wrong person to ask about terms, I don't have any say here.
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  697. emus ok, thanks
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