XSF Discussion - 2022-03-02


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  46. moparisthebest Just had a conversation with a long time IRC friend today, asked my opinion on Matrix
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  48. moparisthebest Said he really likes the design of XMPP and that it's an IETF standard etc but lack of reliable message delivery and history is a deal breaker...
  49. moparisthebest Is there some XMPP fud article everyone is sharing around or a breakdown in communication or what?
  50. L29Ah well, there's no reliable message delivery and history in the IETF standard
  51. wgreenhouse ^ the 2022 compliance suite xep or modernxmpp might be an antidote without feeding into the ecosystem-is-moving FUD?
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  54. mdosch > lack of reliable message delivery Hmm, actually it works very well > and history History works also, if history on new devices is an issue you could use PGP instead of omemo
  55. mdosch > Is there some XMPP fud article everyone is sharing around or a breakdown in communication or what? Wasn't there a myths section on xmpp.org?
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  59. moparisthebest Right, I listed all the things that worked great with XMPP and he was all "oh yea that sounds perfect" and it's all been working at least a decade, he just hadn't heard about it
  60. moparisthebest Pidgin+gtalk strikes again I guess
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  65. mdosch Meh
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  164. Guus > Said he really likes the design of XMPP and that it's an IETF standard etc but lack of reliable message delivery and history is a deal breaker... Did you ask him where or how he came to that conclusion moparisthebest ?
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  321. Holger Isn't that just common knowledge shared among everyone besides us?
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  328. mjk We need to ~cancel Pidgin~ get together and improve Pidgin to the point of the best desktop xmpp client!!11
  329. Zash You have my vim!
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  333. mjk I have only a puny nano, but I'll do my best too
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  515. kinetik dino eats pidgin
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  535. Ge0rG Shouldn't that be "Dino eats pterodactyl"?
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  539. Sam Whoa, is it called Dino because Pigeons *are* Dinos?
  540. Ellenor Malik :B
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  548. mjk > Whoa, is it called Dino because Pigeons *are* Dinos? was going to say something like "Dino is Protopidgin"
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  595. moparisthebest *mind blown*
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  605. edhelas I think we really need to have a Conversations about Pidgin yes
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