XSF Discussion - 2022-03-05

Tigase people online? ✏

poezio poeple online? pep?

people awake?

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this is a terminology question, maybe other can confirm: [Slixmpp 1.8.0](https://lab.louiz.org/poezio/slixmpp/-/releases/slix-1.8.0) has been released, which adds compatibility with python 3.10, as well as a lot of improvements related to typing and async under the hood.

I want to write asynchronization

is that okay?

I has been claimed that with the 7.1 Tigase update, OMEMO in muc is broken or has issues. Is that correct and should be added to the newsletter entry?

> Tigase released [BeagleIM 5.1](https://github.com/tigase/beagle-im/releases/tag/5.1) and [SiskinIM 7.1](https://github.com/tigase/siskin-im/releases/tag/7.1) featuring improved OMEMO support.

emus, to be exact, the issue is not with Tigase 7.1 but with SiskinIM 7.1 and BeagleIM 5.1. Generally people are reporting the issue with OMEMO in group chats but there is nothing pointing out what is actually wrong and people claim it started after those versions were released

As for BeagleIM the issue was never confirmed (or I do not recall that)

ok, then I leave it like this

yes, I know its not Tigase 7.1, was just lazy to write both clients

sorry

> I want to write asynchronization > is that okay? Asynchrony maybe. Or even asynchroncity :))

a cron city

Or just expand to "async execution" or "async functions" ✏

ok mjk

*asynchronicity was intended, but yeah that's silly either way. I suggest async execution

I stick to function to keep it as much as general and fewer likelihood I get blamed^^

Eh, technically, async functions aren't even functions, but that's probably too programming-language-theoretic :D

I leave it as it has been in the original

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:D

I mean, go ahead with adding "functions", it's okay

Movim dev here?

edhelas: 🔼

thanks, wrote him directly, forgot I have the direct contact

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> https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.711686738.4266/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg I don't see what's above the angrily frowning person, am I missing some fonts?

https://xmpp.org/2022/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2022/ https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107904317740522875 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1500110610914234368

emus: great work as usual! Also you did the right thing leaving it just "async"

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Also calling here for volunteers to help: There is no newsletter email service atm. If someone is quicker than me, I would appreciate if a comparison matrix with features, requirements (and even costs per mail/month) could be created. That would be necessary to find a replacement service I started a pad: https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/edit/quDMy0C8ZnLhnlcujLtwEz8l/

emus: XSF already runs mailing list software, can't a new one be set up for the list using existing infra?

Mailing list software normally isn't great for newsletters in my experience. I'm sure with some configuration they can be made to work, but then you still need a client to design it and make it look good, and they're generally way more difficult than stuff designed for it.

Perfect enemy of good etc etc, use Thunderbird or whatever you prefer to design (or preferably just send text mail with a link to the newsletter for people who want HTML)

Sam, moparisthebest: If we get a good experience from both sides Im fine to evaluate this option. However, I need someone who can do this with the necessary technical understanding. I wouldnt know how to evaluate

emus: basically the existing infra handles all the subscription/unsubscription for you and gives you 1 email address you can send an email to that will send it out to all subscribers

Formatting the email before sending would be on you

by "not good" I mean "bad", this isn't a "it's not perfect" situation.

Formatting an email seems like a totally different need with a totally different solution no?

jonas’: do we want this ^

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well. I could also simply send an email via xsf-commteam mail, with all in BCC. but then we still need a subscription setup

The mailing list handles that

yes ok

Hello XSF folks! I (emus) started an initiative to celebrate XMPP this year. I have a loose idea to collect statements from the community, developers, users, projects etc. I cannot state yet that we will post all of them and how, to ensure some quality. But let's start with collection. We can discuss later how we going to deal with it best. Tell a "tweetable" story, experience, background about XMPP. Why do you use it, why do you think its great? Why are you involved? How did you come to XMPP? What ever you think that affects this and suits! We should go for a wide spectrum of stories! Date: Well, I see people might can take this as a joke - but we can find a work around maybe - open for suggestions! https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-celebration2022 Let me know if things needs to be board approved or whatever I don't see here! What do you think? :-) Cheers Eddie

As a date, you can still use the american xmpp day, 2nd of may... 5.2.22 Good luck 🙃

American XMPP day?

The XSF is based in the USA

yes, but how it comes to this day?

May 2nd, 2022, Americans abbreviate that 5-2-22

JABB on T9 is 5222 whis is the default XMPP c2s port number

As in port 5222, the official port of XMPP

Zash: 🤯

please tell me that this is a coincidence.

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Petition to add 9677 as another default port

wow how far we got from my suggestion in 6 posts 🙈

> American XMPP day? Yeah. 5.2.22. was a month ago in the Rest of the world that uses dd.mm.yy 🙃

You can scroll like 6-7 weeks back in this MUC history (or was it the other MUC?) Where I talked about it...