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  288. emus Tigase people here?
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  291. emus Tigase people online?
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  296. emus poezio poeple online? pep?
  297. Zash people awake?
  298. emus 😄️
  299. Zash 💤️
  300. emus this is a terminology question, maybe other can confirm: [Slixmpp 1.8.0](https://lab.louiz.org/poezio/slixmpp/-/releases/slix-1.8.0) has been released, which adds compatibility with python 3.10, as well as a lot of improvements related to typing and async under the hood.
  301. emus I want to write asynchronization
  302. emus is that okay?
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  306. emus I has been claimed that with the 7.1 Tigase update, OMEMO in muc is broken or has issues. Is that correct and should be added to the newsletter entry?
  307. emus > Tigase released [BeagleIM 5.1](https://github.com/tigase/beagle-im/releases/tag/5.1) and [SiskinIM 7.1](https://github.com/tigase/siskin-im/releases/tag/7.1) featuring improved OMEMO support.
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  311. Andrzej emus, to be exact, the issue is not with Tigase 7.1 but with SiskinIM 7.1 and BeagleIM 5.1. Generally people are reporting the issue with OMEMO in group chats but there is nothing pointing out what is actually wrong and people claim it started after those versions were released
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  313. Andrzej As for BeagleIM the issue was never confirmed (or I do not recall that)
  314. emus ok, then I leave it like this
  315. emus yes, I know its not Tigase 7.1, was just lazy to write both clients
  316. emus sorry
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  320. mjk > I want to write asynchronization > is that okay? Asynchrony maybe. Or even asynchroncity :))
  321. mjk Or just expand to "async executionx or "async functions"
  322. Zash a cron city
  323. mjk Or just expand to "async execution" or "async functions"
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  325. emus ok mjk
  326. mjk *asynchronicity was intended, but yeah that's silly either way. I suggest async execution
  327. emus I stick to function to keep it as much as general and fewer likelihood I get blamed^^
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  330. mjk Eh, technically, async functions aren't even functions, but that's probably too programming-language-theoretic :D
  331. emus I leave it as it has been in the original
  332. emus ^^
  333. mjk :D
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  335. mjk I mean, go ahead with adding "functions", it's okay
  336. emus Movim dev here?
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  350. mathieui edhelas: 🔼
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  354. emus thanks, wrote him directly, forgot I have the direct contact
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  371. edhelas https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.711686738.4266/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg
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  373. emus 😅️
  374. mjk > https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.711686738.4266/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg I don't see what's above the angrily frowning person, am I missing some fonts?
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  403. emus https://xmpp.org/2022/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2022/ https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107904317740522875 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1500110610914234368
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  417. moparisthebest emus: great work as usual! Also you did the right thing leaving it just "async"
  418. emus 😊️
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  444. emus Also calling here for volunteers to help: There is no newsletter email service atm. If someone is quicker than me, I would appreciate if a comparison matrix with features, requirements (and even costs per mail/month) could be created. That would be necessary to find a replacement service I started a pad: https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/edit/quDMy0C8ZnLhnlcujLtwEz8l/
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  464. moparisthebest emus: XSF already runs mailing list software, can't a new one be set up for the list using existing infra?
  465. Sam Mailing list software normally isn't great for newsletters in my experience. I'm sure with some configuration they can be made to work, but then you still need a client to design it and make it look good, and they're generally way more difficult than stuff designed for it.
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  468. moparisthebest Perfect enemy of good etc etc, use Thunderbird or whatever you prefer to design (or preferably just send text mail with a link to the newsletter for people who want HTML)
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  474. emus Sam, moparisthebest: If we get a good experience from both sides Im fine to evaluate this option. However, I need someone who can do this with the necessary technical understanding. I wouldnt know how to evaluate
  475. moparisthebest emus: basically the existing infra handles all the subscription/unsubscription for you and gives you 1 email address you can send an email to that will send it out to all subscribers
  476. moparisthebest Formatting the email before sending would be on you
  477. Sam by "not good" I mean "bad", this isn't a "it's not perfect" situation.
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  479. moparisthebest Formatting an email seems like a totally different need with a totally different solution no?
  480. emus jonas’: do we want this ^
  481. emus ?
  482. emus well. I could also simply send an email via xsf-commteam mail, with all in BCC. but then we still need a subscription setup
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  484. moparisthebest The mailing list handles that
  485. emus yes ok
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  580. emus Hello XSF folks! I (emus) started an initiative to celebrate XMPP this year. I have a loose idea to collect statements from the community, developers, users, projects etc. I cannot state yet that we will post all of them and how, to ensure some quality. But let's start with collection. We can discuss later how we going to deal with it best. Tell a "tweetable" story, experience, background about XMPP. Why do you use it, why do you think its great? Why are you involved? How did you come to XMPP? What ever you think that affects this and suits! We should go for a wide spectrum of stories! Date: Well, I see people might can take this as a joke - but we can find a work around maybe - open for suggestions! https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-celebration2022 Let me know if things needs to be board approved or whatever I don't see here! What do you think? :-) Cheers Eddie
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  652. sebastian As a date, you can still use the american xmpp day, 2nd of may... 5.2.22 Good luck 🙃
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  681. emus American XMPP day?
  682. moparisthebest The XSF is based in the USA
  683. emus yes, but how it comes to this day?
  684. moparisthebest May 2nd, 2022, Americans abbreviate that 5-2-22
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  687. Zash JABB on T9 is 5222 whis is the default XMPP c2s port number
  688. moparisthebest As in port 5222, the official port of XMPP
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  691. moparisthebest Zash: 🤯
  692. guus.der.kinderen please tell me that this is a coincidence.
  693. Zash 😇
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  707. mjk Petition to add 9677 as another default port
  708. emus wow how far we got from my suggestion in 6 posts 🙈
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  741. sebastian > American XMPP day? Yeah. 5.2.22. was a month ago in the Rest of the world that uses dd.mm.yy 🙃
  742. sebastian You can scroll like 6-7 weeks back in this MUC history (or was it the other MUC?) Where I talked about it...
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